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17. Because it's tempting on its face as a easy comparison

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:25 AM

Aug 2019

"All Swiss men have automatic weapons, it's not the guns at all!" is a lot easier than trying to work out deeper reasons and practical, effective restrictions that would be passable in the US (IMO "it's JUST the guns so take every single one" isn't much better but I really don't want to get into that here).

The limitation to buying and using ammo at the range is only for government-issued military-specification ammo though; it looks like you can buy private ammo and keep it at home with no issues.

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It's not the guns. Switzerland has as many guns as the US and had 3 mass-shootings in 100 years. [View all] DetlefK Aug 2019 OP

repub fascists often use switzerland as an example that pangaia Aug 2019 #1

What kind of rifle? Ammunition capacity? Same as we have seen used this week ? lunasun Aug 2019 #2

The Swiss rifle is sarisataka Aug 2019 #9

Except that the issue Stgw90 is select-fire sir pball Aug 2019 #19

Correct sarisataka Aug 2019 #24

SIG 550. 30-round magazines. Full-automatic fire. The "genuine" version of what was used here. sir pball Aug 2019 #10

Ammunition is sold at range and must be used there . Well then why compare to here as OP did? lunasun Aug 2019 #13

Because it's tempting on its face as a easy comparison sir pball Aug 2019 #17

Ammunition is sold in vending machines outside banks Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #21

More uninformed gun BS. Ammo is strictly controlled in Switzerland, unlike here. Hoyt Aug 2019 #28

You really should keep comments like that to people who haven't personally experienced it. Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #34

I'm telling you, you can't buy ammo out of a vending machine in Switzerland without a permit. Hoyt Aug 2019 #39

Who should I believe? Some rando on the internet or my own eyes? Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #41

Looks more like ammo for military/emergency weapons that can no longer be kept at home. Hoyt Aug 2019 #43

So, no comment or apology re: ammo vending machine? Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #44

Doesn't look like a vending machine for "sales" [you said "sold" remember]. Hoyt Aug 2019 #45

That's because it's not a vending machine BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #47

Honestly, I think it might be a repository for military ammunition in the case of an emergency. Hoyt Aug 2019 #49

Coins go in top. Open door. I don't know how else it would work Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #58

It's likely a military depository, Mike. Read post above. Hoyt Aug 2019 #59

A glass front along a sidewalk is military repository? Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #61

I knew a person once who made bullets. Blue_true Aug 2019 #52

Anyone can buy reloading equipment. But you are right, even with ammo control, Hoyt Aug 2019 #55

It's a military assault rifle. Codeine Aug 2019 #11

Switzerland does not have as many guns per capita as the US. Not even close. DanTex Aug 2019 #3

Thank you for posting a link to data. spooky3 Aug 2019 #30

..👍🏼 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #40

Oh BS. Guns are difficult to purchase in Switzerland. Permits to carry are rare. Ammo is restricted. Hoyt Aug 2019 #4

Switzerland actually has gun laws. LisaL Aug 2019 #5

no, it really is the guns. and the two countries really are not comparable for many reasons JI7 Aug 2019 #6

There was a nifty study a decade or two ago. Igel Aug 2019 #18

It's our disgusting gun culture. hunter Aug 2019 #25

No. It's the guns StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #7

How many military-type assault rifles do the Swiss own? Here it's 15-20 million. Princetonian Aug 2019 #8

Spectacularly unconvincing. (nt) Paladin Aug 2019 #12

Bullshit. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #14

Does Switzerland have all these assault rifles? n/t malaise Aug 2019 #15

you are misinformed & misleading about swiss gun laws jimmy the one Aug 2019 #16

US only has 4 times as many guns per capita, not 50 times as many. DetlefK Aug 2019 #22

So your OP is stunningly wrong since it says "Switzerland has as many guns as the US". honest.abe Aug 2019 #48

Horseshit. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #20

Stupid is as Stupid says... PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #23

Wrong. Switzerland doesn't have nearly as many guns as the US. kcr Aug 2019 #26

even the linked article, and its headline, supports what you are saying. nt spooky3 Aug 2019 #37

Which begs the questions BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #38

This article is outdated. Swiss voted for gun control bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #27

It's not mentall illness Cetacea Aug 2019 #29

Switzerland has a "well-regulated militia" Blecht Aug 2019 #31

Yep - when the chosen representatives of We the People decided to re-create the Militias, jmg257 Aug 2019 #51

It's the guns plus the culture that promotes worship of them. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #32

I think it would be wonderful if everyone who wants to buy a gun of any kind would ooky Aug 2019 #33

Cultures are not the same, and other nations do not have constitutional rights to own guns. elocs Aug 2019 #35

Same as Zardoz... hunter Aug 2019 #36

What a total crock of shit. llmart Aug 2019 #42

Oh no!! They;re doing it again!! Try to take retread Aug 2019 #46

You raised a legitimate path for dealing with the problem that we have, Blue_true Aug 2019 #50

The culture is different treestar Aug 2019 #53

I said that in this thread earlier this morning but evidently it's not a popular idea. elocs Aug 2019 #63

That is ridiculous propaganda... CatMor Aug 2019 #54

Swiss relatives said if stolen gun used in crime, owner is liable bobbieinok Aug 2019 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author jimmy the one Aug 2019 #57

Why does it have to be black and white?? Guns are definitely PART of the problem... cbdo2007 Aug 2019 #60

Gun fetishes are disgusting. hunter Aug 2019 #64

it's no coincidence shootings involve guns - it all starts with the ridiculous availability of gunz KG Aug 2019 #62

Big issue - these are only given to people that pass the screening - most of our killers would fail lark Aug 2019 #65

Your post is clear and I understood fine KentuckyWoman Aug 2019 #66