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In reply to the discussion: Connor Betts, Dayton Shooter, described himself as a 'Leftist' [View all]BumRushDaShow
(169,819 posts)84. He had a criminal record as "an adult"
which was the point I had originally responded to. The further details being that his "record" was a misdemeanor vs a felony, where a felony would have precluded his ability to "legally" purchase a gun in the state of Ohio.
However we know now that (at least according to reports) he had a juvenile record of having made threats against classmates via alleged "hit lists" and "rape lists", enough so that he was kicked out of school for it.
The link to the Gifford Center indicated this for Ohio -
Last updated October 16, 2018.
See our Prohibited Purchasers policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.
Federal law prohibits certain persons from purchasing or possessing firearms, such as felons, certain domestic abusers, and certain people with a history of mental illness.
Similarly, Ohio prohibits the following persons from purchasing or possessing firearms, unless they have obtained a relief from disability:1
Fugitives from justice;
Persons under indictment for or convicted of any violent felony offense, or who have been adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been a violent felony offense;
Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, a felony drug offense (or adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been a felony drug offense);
Persons who are drug dependent, in danger of drug dependence or chronic alcoholics; or
Persons under adjudication for mental incompetence, adjudicated as a mental defective, committed to a mental institution, found to be mentally ill subject to hospitalization by court order, or involuntary mentally ill patients.2
Ohio also prohibits the use of a firearm by a career criminal.3
See our Prohibited Purchasers policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.
Federal law prohibits certain persons from purchasing or possessing firearms, such as felons, certain domestic abusers, and certain people with a history of mental illness.
Similarly, Ohio prohibits the following persons from purchasing or possessing firearms, unless they have obtained a relief from disability:1
Fugitives from justice;
Persons under indictment for or convicted of any violent felony offense, or who have been adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been a violent felony offense;
Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, a felony drug offense (or adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been a felony drug offense);
Persons who are drug dependent, in danger of drug dependence or chronic alcoholics; or
Persons under adjudication for mental incompetence, adjudicated as a mental defective, committed to a mental institution, found to be mentally ill subject to hospitalization by court order, or involuntary mentally ill patients.2
Ohio also prohibits the use of a firearm by a career criminal.3
There is a further link that states that fire arms purchases are forbidden for anyone under 18 in the state and handgun purchases are forbidden for anyone under 21. So this suggests that he either bought that weapon "as an adult" or got it illegally as a juvenile under 18.
When you have someone that unhinged, chances are that allowing him access to a weapon of mass destruction is not a good idea. The law in Ohio mentions "delinquent juveniles adjudicated" for certain "crimes" and at this point in time, we don't know how his juvenile threats were handled.
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He was arrested and spent time in jail for violating probation "as an adult"
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2019
#65
Should that have resulted in him not been able to legally purchase guns, or was that considered
LisaL
Aug 2019
#66
We'll see, he went to a most black club and shot up mostly black people. There was also a caller int
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#52
+1, on the other hand Donald Trump has called immigrants invaders and said they infest
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#44
He was up to no good from the start. He pretended to be left. He clearly hated women
rockfordfile
Aug 2019
#123
It's imperative that you understand that Mylife is unreliable information and a scam webite
Niagara
Aug 2019
#121
From what has been released on more reliable news outlets, he sounds like an incel
wyldwolf
Aug 2019
#22
I agree, he sounds like an incel. It also sounds like the sister was more successful than he was.
LisaL
Aug 2019
#39
No, his sister wasn't in the bar because he shot people on the street, not inside the bar.
LisaL
Aug 2019
#37
If you are talking about Betts parents, you are confusing his sister with somebody else.
LisaL
Aug 2019
#43
People are people. Just voting Democratic or Liberal does not mean you are a saint.
elocs
Aug 2019
#32
Perhaps the guy didn't know what he was. But the RW will run with the ''leftist'' crap.
YOHABLO
Aug 2019
#61
My guess the guy felt like a loser in personal and professional life and was jealous of people
LisaL
Aug 2019
#67
Gun$- they are marketed to more than one type of political slant. He was a bully in HS +once
lunasun
Aug 2019
#68
I dont believe this. I think he was just trolling. He had been planning this for months and
SweetieD
Aug 2019
#81
Yes, it's all clear in his manifesto claming his shooting was to draw awareness ....
Tommy_Carcetti
Aug 2019
#87