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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. Forget the amendment and act directly on the Supreme Court.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:04 PM
Aug 2012
Citizens United was a 5-4 decision, so all it takes is one good appointment and we're there. (In practice, it will probably take more than one, because the odds are that the next retirement or death will be one of the 4. Nevertheless, the point is that we're pretty close.)

You write:

Ideally President Obama would nominate two or three scholars to the bench and CU would be cut out like the cancer it is. Unfortunately, Citizens United is going to be the new Roe-Vs-Wade and any new justice will have to pass the litmus test of leaving CU alone if he/she hopes to have any chance of confirmation.


To approve a Supreme Court justice who'll vote to overrule Citizens United, we need 60 Senators to break the filibuster. What else do we need for each path?

(1) Supreme Court - We also need to have a President who'll make a good nomination. This might well turn into something of a litmus test on our side.

(2) Constitutional amendment - We don't need the President (who plays no formal role in the process), but we need an additional seven Senators to get to 2/3, plus 2/3 of the House, plus 3/4 of the states.

IMO, it's clearly wrong to write off the approach of getting the Supreme Court to change its mind, because of the practical difficulties, but then embrace the Constitutional amendment.

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America is way too polarized for any changes to be made to the Constitution. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #1
Exactly right. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #5
And there is also a time mandate to be considered.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #16
3/4 FreeJoe Aug 2012 #17
You are correct about the process, CalPeg, elleng Aug 2012 #2
I have serious doubts about the efficacy of this approach, my dear elleng. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #6
I am afraid a constitutional amendment is the only chance we have to kill Corporate Personhood. yourout Aug 2012 #3
It'll take a constitutional amendment to undo Citizens United struggle4progress Aug 2012 #4
There is so much division in this country I think it's very difficult to get the majorities. In a RKP5637 Aug 2012 #7
They've had more than their share of weird ideas for constitutional amendments. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #8
Yeah. The practicalities of overturning CU by amendment are depressing. pa28 Aug 2012 #9
Forget the amendment and act directly on the Supreme Court. Jim Lane Aug 2012 #18
I am promoting a Constitutional Amendment hfojvt Aug 2012 #10
I maintain my right to cringe, dammit! LOL CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #11
It's also, in most cases, an incredibly heavy-handed approach Posteritatis Aug 2012 #12
That is an excellent thought. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #13
It is the only way to overturn a SCOTUS ruling on the Constitution cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #14
If we got a Congress of honest legislators instead of the purchased Cleita Aug 2012 #15
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