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Showing Original Post only (View all)What America would look like if it didn't change their Amendments [View all]
As America attempts to recover from two deadly mass shootings in the space of 48 hours, there are calls to change the Second Amendment which allows for the owning of weapons.
Like many other US amendments, this one too can be changed if there is the political will. Crucially, it is for this exact reason that they're called 'amendments.'
America has a rich history in amending existing laws to improve the lives of its citizens. Here are some of the ways America would be worse off had it not amended pre-existing laws:
1. Slavery would still be legal
Americas 13th Amendment (1865) abolished slavery and involuntary solitude in all circumstances apart from in the case of a punishment for a crime.
2. You could be searched at any time for any reason
The 4th Amendment (1791) titled Search and Seizure gave people the right to secure their homes and person, and put a requirement for Warrants.
3. Soldiers could be posted in your home without your consent
Until the third amendment (1971), soldiers could, at any time use a citizens home to post up.
4. Women couldn't vote
Prior to 1920 women were not legally allowed to vote. It wasnt until the ratification of the 19th Amendment that it was prohibited to deny the right to vote based on sex.
5. Black and Hispanic people couldn't vote, either
The 15th Amendment prohibited denying someones right to vote based on race.
6. Punishments for crimes could be cruel and arbitrarily large fines set
The eighth amendment - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
7. You were not entitled to a trial-by-jury
The 6th Amendment (1971) protects the right to a fair trial by jury.
8. You wouldnt be able vote unless you are over the age of 21
The 26th Amendment (1971) enshrines the right of US citizens over the age of 18 to vote.
Like many other US amendments, this one too can be changed if there is the political will. Crucially, it is for this exact reason that they're called 'amendments.'
America has a rich history in amending existing laws to improve the lives of its citizens. Here are some of the ways America would be worse off had it not amended pre-existing laws:
1. Slavery would still be legal
Americas 13th Amendment (1865) abolished slavery and involuntary solitude in all circumstances apart from in the case of a punishment for a crime.
2. You could be searched at any time for any reason
The 4th Amendment (1791) titled Search and Seizure gave people the right to secure their homes and person, and put a requirement for Warrants.
3. Soldiers could be posted in your home without your consent
Until the third amendment (1971), soldiers could, at any time use a citizens home to post up.
4. Women couldn't vote
Prior to 1920 women were not legally allowed to vote. It wasnt until the ratification of the 19th Amendment that it was prohibited to deny the right to vote based on sex.
5. Black and Hispanic people couldn't vote, either
The 15th Amendment prohibited denying someones right to vote based on race.
6. Punishments for crimes could be cruel and arbitrarily large fines set
The eighth amendment - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
7. You were not entitled to a trial-by-jury
The 6th Amendment (1971) protects the right to a fair trial by jury.
8. You wouldnt be able vote unless you are over the age of 21
The 26th Amendment (1971) enshrines the right of US citizens over the age of 18 to vote.
https://www.indy100.com/article/america-second-amendment-slavery-voting-black-hispanic-9039976
But... we all know that the amendment needed would make a certain type of chap feel insecure, and we can't have that....

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Maybe... but it doesn't have to be under that 18" barrel standard to be useful for home defense
FBaggins
Aug 2019
#34
Understood about Heller - we were talking Miller. You use the decision as proof of militia relation
jmg257
Aug 2019
#13
What I stated, just like the USSC did, is quite clear...exactly WHY it went against Miller...
jmg257
Aug 2019
#18
So if Miller had a gun that was suitable for militia service then he would've been ok?
hack89
Aug 2019
#30
Those British scholars would use English law to justify us still being a colony.
former9thward
Aug 2019
#21
The Heller decision goes to great lengths to discuss the history/origins of 2A
FBaggins
Aug 2019
#38