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jimmy the one

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35. the phantom justice, ray roberts
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019

baggins: Ray Roberts was a Democrat... he was appointed by both Carter and Clinton (and recommended both times by Lloyd Bentsen.

Who pray tell, is ray roberts in emerson? I thought you were referring to the 5th circ emerson decision in 2001;

United States Court of Appeals,Fifth Circuit.
UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. Timothy Joe EMERSON, Defendant-Appellee.
Decided: October 16, 2001
Before GARWOOD, DeMOSS and PARKER, Circuit Judges.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1332436.html#

Now Robert Parker was indeed a carter appointee, but wow, what a big coincidence that would be if you are citing another emerson case with a carter appointee.

What I'd written about robert parker: Those 3 justices were all republican I believe - I reviewed this & googled them, two were noted as republican, the third, was not party id'd, but this: From 1965 until 1966, he {robt parker} worked as an administrative assistant to United States. Republican Ray Roberts.

Oh I figured it out. See Ray Roberts in the above sentence baggins? - Ray Roberts is the senator that Robert Parker worked for. Ray Roberts is indeed a republican, not a democrat - you read him as being one.
It's obvious you simply cited the wrong person in your haste to nick my shoulder, but still, get a napkin wipe the egg off your face.

baggins: That would be an incredibly lame position even if your 20 seconds of googling was accurate. In reality, your research skills suck:

More like 20 minutes, & my research skills are quite good comparatively. And if you want LAME, reread the top half of this post about what YOU wrote.
If you are so good at research, post a link or website which ascertains that Roberts was a democrat. You get 20 minutes.

Why I felt Robert Parker might be a republican: Those 3 justices were all republican I believe - I reviewed this & googled them, two were noted as republican, the third, Robert Parker appt'd by carter & later nom'd by clinton, was not party id'd, but this: From 1965 until 1966, he {robt parker} worked as an administrative assistant to United States. Republican Ray Roberts
Yeah clinton & carter appt'd some republicans, esp to southern circuits.
It wasn't a full 5th circuit unanimous decision, and it appears the 3 - 0 ruling might've come from 3 republicans,


Its obvious I was uncertain as to Robert Parkers political party. Its a minor point, not like I confused Robert Parker with Ray Roberts or anything gooney like that. To exploit it as you did demonstrates that you continue to mischaracterize & are more interested in promoting gun lobby positions at opponents expense.

baggins: don't think that anyone missed that you once again dodged the key question. ......There were four liberals and two moderates on the Supreme Court. Why didn't they even grant cert when the case was appealed?

I hate to break this to you baggins, but I do not think that -anyone- is following this except a few, likely out of boredom or nothing on tv.
As far your inane dialectic argument, you can stick that somewhere; I will not play your stupid game trying to go back 60 years to try to explain, to YOU, why the miller supreme court did not hear a subsequent Cases v US case. You do your own research.
Except for quickly: there are several reasons scotus could refuse - they agreed with the underlying decision, felt miller was definitive enough, that district courts and circuits sometimes had an alternate version of 2ndA and to address every issue was impractical and took up court time needed for more important issues.

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The basic point is accurate... but some of the examples are off FBaggins Aug 2019 #1
I agree. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #2
agree. Repeal it! n/t Brainstormy Aug 2019 #5
We should have stayed with England, we'd have health care too. Hoyt Aug 2019 #3
Good point PJMcK Aug 2019 #26
Think the author should do some more research - 3rd and 6th amendments in 1971? jmg257 Aug 2019 #4
Research? Nah, it's just a typo BruceWane Aug 2019 #15
supreme court 1939 miller decision jimmy the one Aug 2019 #6
' raging moderate Aug 2019 #7
What do you think would have happened had Miller livrd aikoaiko Aug 2019 #9
had jack miller lived jimmy the one Aug 2019 #29
For people who think a shotgun is good home defense, aikoaiko Aug 2019 #32
Maybe... but it doesn't have to be under that 18" barrel standard to be useful for home defense FBaggins Aug 2019 #34
Hey Jimmy! Since by 1939, the people were already only the UNorganized Militia, jmg257 Aug 2019 #10
flies in your ointments jimmy the one Aug 2019 #12
Understood about Heller - we were talking Miller. You use the decision as proof of militia relation jmg257 Aug 2019 #13
what they did NOT say, does not trump what they DID say jimmy the one Aug 2019 #16
What I stated, just like the USSC did, is quite clear...exactly WHY it went against Miller... jmg257 Aug 2019 #18
But some in yours as well FBaggins Aug 2019 #14
the prevailing 1939 thought was no individual rkba jimmy the one Aug 2019 #17
You've provided no evidence for that FBaggins Aug 2019 #19
flies in the bulloffal jimmy the one Aug 2019 #23
Once again... general claims without evidence FBaggins Aug 2019 #28
not unanimous en banc like 1939 scotus re miller jimmy the one Aug 2019 #31
Entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts FBaggins Aug 2019 #33
the phantom justice, ray roberts jimmy the one Aug 2019 #35
Hiding by replying to yourself? FBaggins Aug 2019 #36
1938-39 Dept of Justice DoJ amicus brief jimmy the one Aug 2019 #25
So if Miller had a gun that was suitable for militia service then he would've been ok? hack89 Aug 2019 #30
Civil Rights were considered unconstitutional, radius777 Aug 2019 #8
criticism of 2008 heller decision by british scholars jimmy the one Aug 2019 #11
Those British scholars would use English law to justify us still being a colony. former9thward Aug 2019 #21
Your suspicions are necessary to validate your own biases. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #24
Umm, put of idle curiosity Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #37
The Heller decision goes to great lengths to discuss the history/origins of 2A FBaggins Aug 2019 #38
bulloffal jimmy the one Aug 2019 #40
scalia invalidly cited english history in heller jimmy the one Aug 2019 #39
Yeah, sorry 'bout that Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #42
Many errors in the post. former9thward Aug 2019 #20
Follow the money... Buckeyeblue Aug 2019 #22
Good post, Soph PJMcK Aug 2019 #27
more truth about the militia intent of 2ndA jimmy the one Aug 2019 #41
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