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Hoyt

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3. The average toter is a cowboy --hero wannabe -- and likely a racist

Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:19 PM

Aug 2019

out to protect themselves from irrational fears.

Really, no such thing as a “good guy with a gun.” If they truly were “good guys,” they’d see their gun love contributes to our gun problem.

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The advantages a mass shooter has over a [View all] ego_nation Aug 2019 OP

Mental derangement... sagesnow Aug 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author ego_nation Aug 2019 #2

And exactly how many of the recent shooters have been psychiatric patients? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #4

They seem to have undiagnosed mental instability at the very least. sagesnow Aug 2019 #6

So, how exactly to we guard ourselves agains people like that who have guns? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #7

Well, first of all, you cant take away all the guns. Great if you could, but it wont happen. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #23

So let's bring up Australia.q PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #36

Thank you. cwydro Aug 2019 #33

Nope. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #5

Mass shooters have to have underlying sociopathic tendencies. sagesnow Aug 2019 #8

but that's not treatable unless that person seeks help maxsolomon Aug 2019 #46

Both need to be addressed: sagesnow Aug 2019 #49

As any DU Gunner will tell you maxsolomon Aug 2019 #50

No. Almost every one of these people have shown mental issues. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #24

"mental issues" doesn't mean insane, deranged. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #45

Dayton shooter had a girlfriend; dont know about El paso killer. But i have a bigger question: oldsoftie Aug 2019 #56

now it's the SSRIs? maxsolomon Aug 2019 #57

You'll supply evidence to support this allegation, yes? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #58

I heard a mental health expert on PBS News tonight say elocs Aug 2019 #10

That intentionally confuses the issue FBaggins Aug 2019 #29

OFFS SHRED Aug 2019 #32

It is evil, not mental illness treestar Aug 2019 #52

The average toter is a cowboy --hero wannabe -- and likely a racist Hoyt Aug 2019 #3

The problem is, gun owners see the second amendment as ego_nation Aug 2019 #38

Most of them seem to be suicidal FakeNoose Aug 2019 #9

I heard on PBS tonight that the good guy with a gun is a myth, elocs Aug 2019 #11

Absolutely it is a myth ego_nation Aug 2019 #37

Someone on DU posted a video in relation to what you posted. Blue_true Aug 2019 #12

That video was a terrible example. It was setup to fail. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #26

I've seen the opposite setup in real life FBaggins Aug 2019 #30

Exactly. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #42

When the police show up, dobleremolque Aug 2019 #13

Yep, that's another one. ego_nation Aug 2019 #39

Reason #1,000,000 it is a horrible idea, and it does not matter Cosmocat Aug 2019 #48

Excellent post! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #14

K&R, uponit7771 Aug 2019 #15

All of the above is welcome.... but... DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #16

My thought is we need to expose the weaknesses in their own arguments. ego_nation Aug 2019 #40

The right is prepared to disbelieve any and all arguments that don't emanate from their dear leader FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #47

Your points are good. And as someone who know about guns I'm reluctant to post at all. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #17

Agreed, see my post below sir pball Aug 2019 #22

And even in the military, you're taught to most often NOT use full auto. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #28

Sorry if I don't understand your full meaning here. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #34

Yes i agree totally. I've always said Koresh had 50+ days to walk out the damn door oldsoftie Aug 2019 #43

I just left a Liberty, MO Walmart. Alwaysna Aug 2019 #18

And don't forget the body armor B Stieg Aug 2019 #19

I heard someone in law enforcement say BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #20

4 - he has a rifle, the GGWIAG has a handgun sir pball Aug 2019 #21

Yep. I'm guessing you are ex military? GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #25

No, not at all. Never served, medically disqualified cuz I have a bum eye. sir pball Aug 2019 #27

GGWAG's unlikely to have been in a gun fight RichardRay Aug 2019 #31

And if a GGWAG has been a gun fight, he or she will run away faster from a guy, GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #35

It's so much more messy than that. The "good guys" could accidentally shoot the wrong people, or NCLefty Aug 2019 #41

Right, that was what my second point was getting at .... ego_nation Aug 2019 #44

And the cops have radios so they can tell each other what's going on. A good guy isn't in the comms NCLefty Aug 2019 #60

Amen treestar Aug 2019 #51

I don't know if anybody talked about this around here but Turbineguy Aug 2019 #53

The difference between a good guy with a gun and the bad guy melm00se Aug 2019 #54

A desire to own a gun is the first red flag that someone might be a little off. hunter Aug 2019 #55

This is the choir you're preaching to. ConnorMarc Aug 2019 #59