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PoindexterOglethorpe

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7. So, how exactly to we guard ourselves agains people like that who have guns?

Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:42 PM

Aug 2019

Again, the bullshit of "mental illness" is used to more or less excuse what happened, and more to the point, is used to do NOTHING at all about the current gun carnage.

I still think taking away all guns could work. I mean, what have we got to lose?

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The advantages a mass shooter has over a [View all] ego_nation Aug 2019 OP

Mental derangement... sagesnow Aug 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author ego_nation Aug 2019 #2

And exactly how many of the recent shooters have been psychiatric patients? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #4

They seem to have undiagnosed mental instability at the very least. sagesnow Aug 2019 #6

So, how exactly to we guard ourselves agains people like that who have guns? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #7

Well, first of all, you cant take away all the guns. Great if you could, but it wont happen. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #23

So let's bring up Australia.q PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #36

Thank you. cwydro Aug 2019 #33

Nope. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #5

Mass shooters have to have underlying sociopathic tendencies. sagesnow Aug 2019 #8

but that's not treatable unless that person seeks help maxsolomon Aug 2019 #46

Both need to be addressed: sagesnow Aug 2019 #49

As any DU Gunner will tell you maxsolomon Aug 2019 #50

No. Almost every one of these people have shown mental issues. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #24

"mental issues" doesn't mean insane, deranged. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #45

Dayton shooter had a girlfriend; dont know about El paso killer. But i have a bigger question: oldsoftie Aug 2019 #56

now it's the SSRIs? maxsolomon Aug 2019 #57

You'll supply evidence to support this allegation, yes? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #58

I heard a mental health expert on PBS News tonight say elocs Aug 2019 #10

That intentionally confuses the issue FBaggins Aug 2019 #29

OFFS SHRED Aug 2019 #32

It is evil, not mental illness treestar Aug 2019 #52

The average toter is a cowboy --hero wannabe -- and likely a racist Hoyt Aug 2019 #3

The problem is, gun owners see the second amendment as ego_nation Aug 2019 #38

Most of them seem to be suicidal FakeNoose Aug 2019 #9

I heard on PBS tonight that the good guy with a gun is a myth, elocs Aug 2019 #11

Absolutely it is a myth ego_nation Aug 2019 #37

Someone on DU posted a video in relation to what you posted. Blue_true Aug 2019 #12

That video was a terrible example. It was setup to fail. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #26

I've seen the opposite setup in real life FBaggins Aug 2019 #30

Exactly. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #42

When the police show up, dobleremolque Aug 2019 #13

Yep, that's another one. ego_nation Aug 2019 #39

Reason #1,000,000 it is a horrible idea, and it does not matter Cosmocat Aug 2019 #48

Excellent post! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #14

K&R, uponit7771 Aug 2019 #15

All of the above is welcome.... but... DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #16

My thought is we need to expose the weaknesses in their own arguments. ego_nation Aug 2019 #40

The right is prepared to disbelieve any and all arguments that don't emanate from their dear leader FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #47

Your points are good. And as someone who know about guns I'm reluctant to post at all. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #17

Agreed, see my post below sir pball Aug 2019 #22

And even in the military, you're taught to most often NOT use full auto. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #28

Sorry if I don't understand your full meaning here. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #34

Yes i agree totally. I've always said Koresh had 50+ days to walk out the damn door oldsoftie Aug 2019 #43

I just left a Liberty, MO Walmart. Alwaysna Aug 2019 #18

And don't forget the body armor B Stieg Aug 2019 #19

I heard someone in law enforcement say BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #20

4 - he has a rifle, the GGWIAG has a handgun sir pball Aug 2019 #21

Yep. I'm guessing you are ex military? GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #25

No, not at all. Never served, medically disqualified cuz I have a bum eye. sir pball Aug 2019 #27

GGWAG's unlikely to have been in a gun fight RichardRay Aug 2019 #31

And if a GGWAG has been a gun fight, he or she will run away faster from a guy, GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #35

It's so much more messy than that. The "good guys" could accidentally shoot the wrong people, or NCLefty Aug 2019 #41

Right, that was what my second point was getting at .... ego_nation Aug 2019 #44

And the cops have radios so they can tell each other what's going on. A good guy isn't in the comms NCLefty Aug 2019 #60

Amen treestar Aug 2019 #51

I don't know if anybody talked about this around here but Turbineguy Aug 2019 #53

The difference between a good guy with a gun and the bad guy melm00se Aug 2019 #54

A desire to own a gun is the first red flag that someone might be a little off. hunter Aug 2019 #55

This is the choir you're preaching to. ConnorMarc Aug 2019 #59