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68. Juries are entirely subjective, one person's 'truth' at that moment may turn out to be nothing more

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #67)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 09:55 PM

Aug 2019

that a CT fantasy when exposed to the march onward of time. Mensch's snake oil ofttimes being a perfect example.

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We laugh at RW, QAnon Conspiracy Theories...but you can take LW CTs to the bank. Why? [View all] stopbush Aug 2019 OP

Both sides like to pretend they're the logical side. Codeine Aug 2019 #1

That's for damn sure. cwydro Aug 2019 #11

Just stop with the both sides rubbish. Joe941 Aug 2019 #24

Transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #30

A little help here. What does all this mean? CurtEastPoint Aug 2019 #2

In more straightforward terms Codeine Aug 2019 #4

What constitutes a left-wing conspiracy theory to you? W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #7

I'm just translating the OP Codeine Aug 2019 #10

The JFK murder, for one... Archae Aug 2019 #17

Yep. That one's never going away, in spite of the overwhelming evidence stopbush Aug 2019 #20

Bullshit. ZZenith Aug 2019 #22

Have you ever read the Warren Report? Be honest. stopbush Aug 2019 #23

Yes. ZZenith Aug 2019 #26

You don't find the forensic evidence compelling? stopbush Aug 2019 #29

I do not. ZZenith Aug 2019 #31

The Warren Commission were prosecutors with a theory of the case. former9thward Aug 2019 #27

That is a total misrepresentation of the Warren Report. Outright lies. stopbush Aug 2019 #28

My, so defensive. former9thward Aug 2019 #33

I have a sore spot when people talk thru their hats. stopbush Aug 2019 #36

The exact same people who love the Warren report former9thward Aug 2019 #45

True...except that the finding of a conspiracy by the HSCA hearings (1978) stopbush Aug 2019 #46

You proved my point. Thank you. former9thward Aug 2019 #52

I don't think you're making the point you think you're making. stopbush Aug 2019 #58

Too bad that Ted Kennedy never gave a shit who killed his brother, eh? jberryhill Aug 2019 #51

Oswald acted alone oswaldactedalone Aug 2019 #53

Well of course you would say that jberryhill Aug 2019 #54

I wasn't going to bring the Kennedy family into this but since you did.... former9thward Aug 2019 #55

I asked about Ted jberryhill Aug 2019 #56

You said "If only JFK had family that cared." former9thward Aug 2019 #59

RFK Jr. is not his brother jberryhill Aug 2019 #60

RFK was. former9thward Aug 2019 #61

The article consists entirely of RFK Jr.'s account jberryhill Aug 2019 #62

And his sister. former9thward Aug 2019 #70

lol seldom have i seen a speculative point illustrated so concretely by what follows 0rganism Aug 2019 #78

Concrete being the key word. Hortensis Aug 2019 #79

this below certainly qualifies Celerity Aug 2019 #25

Not according to DU juries Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #35

juries have nothing to do with it nt Celerity Aug 2019 #65

Except that CT and conspiracies are not supposed to be spread on DU, per the TOS Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #67

Juries are entirely subjective, one person's 'truth' at that moment may turn out to be nothing more Celerity Aug 2019 #68

Why does a Tory 'deffo' count as left wing? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #48

I am saying that the CT rot Mensch pushes is bought by many on the left Celerity Aug 2019 #64

Thank you. I got RW but CT when Googled got me Connecticut and Computed tomography CurtEastPoint Aug 2019 #9

It means that it's just as crazy to wonder why a high profile prisoner Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #37

Wrong example. There are a few here who leaped Hortensis Aug 2019 #81

I wouldn't rule out murder myself. Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #82

Me either, same for suicide. If someone was that afraid Hortensis Aug 2019 #84

It's an interesting dynamic. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #3

What are the lw conspiracy theories? RDANGELO Aug 2019 #5

Sometimes the point is just to throw a bomb out there, I guess. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #6

I'd say the JFK CTs are the grand daddy of all CTs that appeal to lefties. stopbush Aug 2019 #18

As pushed by Alex Jones? Not 'left wing'. Just crazy. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #49

9/11 is a good example. Nt hack89 Aug 2019 #19

Saudis were involved in 9-11 JonLP24 Aug 2019 #34

And my point is proved. Nt hack89 Aug 2019 #39

Have you heard of the 9-11 victims lawsuit against Saudi Arabia? JonLP24 Aug 2019 #40

Saudi Arabia government 'funded dry run' for 9/11, legal documents claim JonLP24 Aug 2019 #41

Bush having an earthquake machine is a good example Kaleva Aug 2019 #43

A thread or two on DU, versus an infamous RW movement which has them going to Trump rallies muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #50

Your comment doesn't refute my own comment to the poster who asked for examples. Kaleva Aug 2019 #66

Another example of a LW CT is George H.W. Bush involved in murdering JFK Kaleva Aug 2019 #71

Those are better, since they don't just get laughed at, unlike the earthquake/hurricane machines muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #72

Prescott Bush was a close friend and business associate of W. Averell Harriman Kaleva Aug 2019 #73

Steve Bannon getting the death penalty TSIAS Aug 2019 #69

My observation is that they're often influenced by Hortensis Aug 2019 #83

It's not rational to take the Trump admin at face value uponit7771 Aug 2019 #8

I need an acronym translator. procon Aug 2019 #12

There is a limit to the character count in a subject line. Ergo the acronyms. stopbush Aug 2019 #21

T and B and GOP are proven liars. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #13

Is about the Epstein suicide? Jake Stern Aug 2019 #14

You forgot your sarcasm thingy, given you posted a link to former US attorney Harry Litman's OP ED hlthe2b Aug 2019 #16

It is one thing to be suspicious when someone who could take so many wealthy folks down, dies Quixote1818 Aug 2019 #15

Exactly. blm Aug 2019 #80

You can't take anything to the bank... stillcool Aug 2019 #32

From the days of 9/11-Lihop and Mihop flotsam Aug 2019 #38

LIHOP and MIHOP NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #74

The Paranoid Style in American Politics... MicaelS Aug 2019 #42

This is why we can never get anywhere. ecstatic Aug 2019 #44

Which LW conspiracy theory do you think is as improbable as QAnon? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #47

On CNN 3:05p Sunday, 2 things I haven't heard before. Bedsheets in this facility sector are empedocles Aug 2019 #57

Failed mind-reading back in schiool. LW? JHB Aug 2019 #63

I laugh at them too? Blue_Tires Aug 2019 #75

Most to not believe, but are willing to pretend & spread the CTs if they think it will hurt GOP krawhitham Aug 2019 #76

Any conspiracy theory will have problems. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #77