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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:07 AM Aug 2019

Evangelicals slowly turning against Trump... for the most pathetic reason imaginable. [View all]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/trump-evangelicals-blasphemy-profanity-1456178

Paul Hardesty didn’t pay much attention to President Donald Trump’s campaign rally in Greenville, N.C., last month until a third concerned constituent rang his cell phone.

The residents of Hardesty’s district — he’s a Trump-supporting West Virginia state senator — were calling to complain that Trump was “using the Lord’s name in vain,” as Hardesty recounted.

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Here’s what he would have seen. Trump crowing, “they'll be hit so goddamn hard,” while bragging about bombing Islamic State militants. And Trump recounting his warning to a wealthy businessman: “If you don't support me, you're going to be so goddamn poor.”

To most of America, the comments went unnoticed. Instead, the nation was gripped after the rally by the moment when a “send her back” chant broke out as Trump went after Somali-born Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar, an American citizen. But some Trump supporters were more fixated on the casual use of the word “goddamn” — an off-limits term for many Christians — not to mention the numerous other profanities laced throughout the rest of the speech.

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“I’ve had people come to me and say, ‘You know I voted for [Trump], but if he doesn’t tone down the rhetoric, I might just stay home this time,’” Hardesty said in an interview, adding that he has yet to hear back from anyone inside the White House after urging the president in a formal letter to “reflect on your comments and never utter those words again.”

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For evangelicals, however, Trump’s indelicate language has frustrated religious fans who have otherwise been true blue supporters of his agenda. They agree with his social policies, praise his appointment of conservative judges and extol his commitment to Israel — often tolerating Trump’s character flaws for the continued advancement of all three. But when it comes to “using the Lord’s name in vain,” as Hardesty put it, “the president’s evangelical base might be far less forgiving.”


A lying, stealing philanderer who has never shown an ounce of decency, whose policies hurt the least among us, who stole from his own charity, who mocks and insults and attacks, who cannot even quote the Bible properly.

Evangelicals were fine with all that, but saying "goddamn" goes too far.





These f*****g hypocrites adopted this man as their champion and leader. This man, who is so amoral and anti-thetical to the spirit of Jesus Christ, it borders on the satirical.

These f*****g hypocrites INVITED the money-changer into the temple and WILLFULLY betrayed everything their religion stands for in exchange for political favors.

But saying "goddamn" goes too far.
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Was coming here JUST to post about this... wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #1
Okay everyone take a big step back DENVERPOPS Aug 2019 #30
To be honest, that seems fanciful in the extreme. Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #55
Jedi Guy DENVERPOPS Aug 2019 #58
But but but blugbox Aug 2019 #2
Yeah, The Bible sells almost as well as The Art of the Deal... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #5
As long as it gets even one of them to turn on him bearssoapbox Aug 2019 #3
So, only the third commandment counts? TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #4
Yes, it's extremely hypocritical of them TlalocW Aug 2019 #6
The sad thing is, they won't learn their lesson. Initech Aug 2019 #7
Orange Julius has been busting Scripture six ways to breakfast Vogon_Glory Aug 2019 #8
It's because it's proof. ginnyinWI Aug 2019 #9
This is not true of all evangelicals, just the hypocrites, which truly are way too many. lark Aug 2019 #10
That's nice, but it's anecdotal Brawndo Aug 2019 #14
Yes lark Aug 2019 #16
Fair enough, but that minority should branch off into yet another denomination Brawndo Aug 2019 #17
You're right, they should. Mariana Aug 2019 #49
actually that is a drop dsc Aug 2019 #18
Need every vote we can get empedocles Aug 2019 #29
I'm guessing that the approval rating NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #21
If that makes a difference then great Brawndo Aug 2019 #25
To his evangelicals/Christians, Trump is so devout keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #23
they should loose there exempt status for that speech. Joe941 Aug 2019 #40
What? lark Aug 2019 #41
Plenty of Christian churches are preaching support for Trump as a tenet of the faith. Mariana Aug 2019 #50
IDC what the reason is TBH Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #11
May seem pathetic, but it's like a little cross on a necklace Hortensis Aug 2019 #12
I married into a very Conservative, very Evangelical Christian family. Wayoff Aug 2019 #13
+1000 They are getting it - slowly but surely FakeNoose Aug 2019 #33
Theirs is actually the mainstream Christian position. Mariana Aug 2019 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Aug 2019 #15
Trump has been receiving the benefit of the King David defense by evangelicals andym Aug 2019 #19
King David Had At Least Some Prior Credit With The Big Guy Vogon_Glory Aug 2019 #22
Many evangelicals think Trump is getting such credit up there right now andym Aug 2019 #24
But they don't realize that at least King David knew how to REPENT... cheezmaka Dec 2019 #61
How can we get him to say "goddamn" more, Ilsa Aug 2019 #20
Let Pelosi continue to hold on to the Articles of Impeachment cheezmaka Dec 2019 #62
Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #26
This used skankbag is pissing off Americans one a time. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #27
Dems need all the help we can get. No purity tests should get in the way empedocles Aug 2019 #28
There is a Special Twist to this Particular Mindset dlk Aug 2019 #31
Wow. Taking the Lord's name in vain! PatrickforO Aug 2019 #32
If that's what it takes, I'll be happy with that. Kaleva Aug 2019 #34
Make no mistake, they'll still vote for him... Blue_Tires Aug 2019 #35
Goddamn if you're not right! BigOleDummy Aug 2019 #36
Do not be surprised at all to learn that Russian money flows into theocratic organizations. Using ancianita Aug 2019 #37
"Build it and they will come" Lars39 Aug 2019 #47
Plausible. ancianita Aug 2019 #48
Big picture, though..... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #38
If they stay home, great. I'll take it. JHB Aug 2019 #39
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #42
{sigh} krispos42 Aug 2019 #43
K&R UTUSN Aug 2019 #44
superstition (noun) - excessively credulous belief in and reverence for supernatural beings. NCLefty Aug 2019 #45
Here's a dose of ambivalence for evangelicals: "Merry goddamn Christmas!" VOX Aug 2019 #46
Don't you think that God would be bigger than to get offended by someone saying "God dammit"? backscatter712 Aug 2019 #51
If that is what it takes to get them to stay home election day.... Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2019 #52
Jesus f***ing Christ! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2019 #53
Depressing, isn't it? KPN Aug 2019 #54
RevTony Campolo made a great comment (and has many times) about the hypocrisy of the religious right Rabrrrrrr Aug 2019 #56
Run an ad... lame54 Aug 2019 #57
For the evangelicals I know, saying "fuck" is heinous sin, but calling someone a "nigger" milestogo Aug 2019 #60
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