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Martin Eden

(15,455 posts)
11. When in doubt, do the right thing
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:01 PM
Aug 2019

There is some doubt as to what effect impeachment by the House will have on the 2020 elections. Reasonable arguments swing both ways, but just from the perspective of political calculation I think the stronger argument is to televise on a daily basis the impeachable offenses by this POtuS. Polls will change as a bright and continuous spotlight exposes his high crimes and misdemeanors. Done correctly, Democrats will be viewed as performing their Constitutional duty while Republicans put party above country.

Political calculation aside, does Donald Trump deserve impeachment? Would justice, the rule of law, and the good of our country be well served by removing him from office?

The answer should be clear, regardless of what happens in the Senate.

The eyes of the world, and of history, are upon us.

Would acquittal by Senate Republicans exonerate Trump, or would that be more of an indictment against the Republican Party?

Even worse would be exoneration by House Democrats who did not see fit to impeach this egregiously unfit Chief Executive.

All these investigations and complaints must have been a hoax after all, right??

When in doubt, do the right thing.

If Article Two, Section Four of our Constitution does not apply to Donald trump, then it is highly unlikely to ever apply.

The bar will be lowered to a subterranean level. The President is above the law, and nothing is beneath him.

There is no such thing as duty; only the political calculation of the moment -- which, ultimately, serves the authoritarian in power.

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We don't live in the 1970s or the 1990s anymore NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #1
Yes empedocles Aug 2019 #2
So we don't even give it our best effort to expose his deeds to the American public? Time for change Aug 2019 #3
there are already several lawsuits making their way through the courts NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #6
The lawsuits will be important mainly to the extent that the American public is more exposed to what Time for change Aug 2019 #16
From a legal standpoint, taking the 5th may be a safe and reasonable thing to do Time for change Aug 2019 #5
From what I understand NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #7
That would be contempt of Congress Time for change Aug 2019 #9
it's been done in the past NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #10
I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that Time for change Aug 2019 #23
K&R... spanone Aug 2019 #4
Didn't you use to post here a lot like 15 years ago? Beringia Aug 2019 #8
Thank you, yes Time for change Aug 2019 #14
Your great reduction in posting is DU's loss alas. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #22
Thank you very much Time for change Aug 2019 #26
When in doubt, do the right thing Martin Eden Aug 2019 #11
I agree with everything you say, absolutely Time for change Aug 2019 #13
I just wanted to express my support for your OP Martin Eden Aug 2019 #20
If House Democrats propose hearings NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #17
Trump will bleat out LIES no matter what the Dems do Martin Eden Aug 2019 #19
and, as I said NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #21
I know it was covered by MSNBC because I watched it. Time for change Aug 2019 #24
It was also covered on some of the YouTube channels procon Aug 2019 #30
Given the mountain of obvious high crimes and misdemeanors you point out, lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #12
Absolutely Time for change Aug 2019 #15
Because accepting them would have undermined and likely destroyed his ability StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #18
That wasn't the excuse that Neal gave Time for change Aug 2019 #25
I think you may have misread the explanation StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #27
I don't understand the concept of the phrase "overseeing the IRS audits" of the President Time for change Aug 2019 #29
The question is not whether Neil can "accept" the returns StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #31
But apparently NY has offered them to Neal Time for change Aug 2019 #32
The law doesn't work that way StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #34
I disagree that the House or any of its memebers would be in legal jeopardy for accepting the NY Time for change Aug 2019 #35
You don't seem to understand how the law works StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #36
I understand the law well enough to know that Congress won't be held in legal jeopardy for Time for change Aug 2019 #38
Thanks for sharing your well thought out and procon Aug 2019 #28
Thank you very much Time for change Aug 2019 #33
Are the Courts dragging their feet on the requests of the House Judiciary Committee? kentuck Aug 2019 #37
I don't know Time for change Aug 2019 #40
Good to see such a well thouht out argument. HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2019 #39
Thank you! Time for change Aug 2019 #41
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