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Ms. Toad

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28. Thanks - I really was just testing to see where DU is, after a rough day in real life

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:34 AM

Aug 2019

in connection with similar issues. The responses truly shocked me - and the lack of response other than my own to the opinions expressed did, as well. If they are representative of where we are now, DU has left me - and it is time for me to just accept that and move on. I left one faith community for similar reasons. Their version of Quakerism suited them, but it just wasn't compatible with mine. No hard feelngs - just an acknowledgement that we are in different spaces.

As to LGBT issues, DU clearly has left me. When I alert on a homophobic post I consider it a good day when I don't get a 24-hour alert time out. But I don't tend to be a single issue communty member (any more than I'm a single issue voter). But these responses (without dissent) crossed a line I had not expected DU to cross. This thread is more positive.

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So - if this is the general concensus as to disabilities, it may be time for me to leave DU. [View all] Ms. Toad Aug 2019 OP

I guess I missed something xmas74 Aug 2019 #1

It was a thread about a child with disabilities - and there are a lot of DU members Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #6

Why would you even think a few responses equals a consensus here at DU? blm Aug 2019 #2

That's why I'm asking - but when 3 of 3 responses in 24 hours suggest Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #5

That usually means the thread dropped as eyes are glued to other matters blm Aug 2019 #12

Generally - Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #19

The responses may have been skewed in that only those with strong 'anti' opinions clicked in Chemisse Aug 2019 #102

I understand your concern and how you could see those responses as representative. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #76

She is right: it wasn't a few responses obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #82

I'm sorry I didn't respond to the earlier OP with my thought: elleng Aug 2019 #3

I don't think that's the general consensus here leftstreet Aug 2019 #4

I truly hope that is the case. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #13

Actua, there have been studied that show that negative feelings motivate more comments tblue37 Aug 2019 #38

I saw that thread and didn't comment. Croney Aug 2019 #7

MsToad MLAA Aug 2019 #8

Call me old mshasta Aug 2019 #16

My question to the poster (who expressed a similar sentiment) Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #18

My kids and I were at a family Pizza place, and old couple was chastizing a single mom. TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #23

I hear you, as I've noticed that as I've gotten older I have far less patience than I use to. MLAA Aug 2019 #66

Call me old too. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #67

sounds like typical modern spoiled "adults" Kali Aug 2019 #9

That's why I reframed it to take the child out of the picture. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #20

Definitely against any kind of exclusion or discrimination. Could be any of us or our family, Hoyt Aug 2019 #10

Thank you. lpbk2713 Aug 2019 #11

The homophobic nonsense is very challenging but - unfortunately not terribly surprising. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #15

Outliers MissB Aug 2019 #14

Not surprised there was an alert. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author JimGinPA Aug 2019 #31

Nope obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #83

I too have wished for a Bettie Aug 2019 #93

I didn't see that thread, Ms. Toad, but I would have strongly been on your side of the argument. pnwmom Aug 2019 #21

Thanks - I really was just testing to see where DU is, after a rough day in real life Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #28

No. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #22

It's been a challenging day in real life Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #24

just block them. Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #32

Please don't go. People with disabilites are not "others". EllieBC Aug 2019 #25

While I Understand Your Frustration... JimGinPA Aug 2019 #26

That is what I was hoping to confirm by asking the question outside of the thread. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #33

Whatever the fuck polite society is...fuck them pbmus Aug 2019 #27

You have your opinion and others have theirs. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #29

That's not necessarily true. Non-Trump voters are more highly educated than Trump voters, pnwmom Aug 2019 #35

I have been here since the selection of George Bush wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #57

538: Education, not income, predicted who voted in Trump in 2016. pnwmom Aug 2019 #59

True - but Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #36

I suspect that your respondents were a non-representative self-selected group. Those tblue37 Aug 2019 #30

They are wrong Midnightwalk Aug 2019 #34

Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #37

People with disabilities have every right to live their lives like everyone else. onecaliberal Aug 2019 #39

I had to hide that thread. Iggo Aug 2019 #40

And that's almost as much of a problem Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #42

I usually wade right in, but this one was too close to home. Iggo Aug 2019 #61

I hear you. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #70

Public spaces and persons with disabilities people Aug 2019 #41

Didn't read the thread except to see that Buzz cook Aug 2019 #43

I haven't been to Outback more than twice - Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #44

It was a sincere question. I used to be in retail and restaurant management. I was Tech Aug 2019 #45

My take - and I didn't even venture into that other thread rufus dog Aug 2019 #46

bravo... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #47

One thing I've noticed over a long period of observation jberryhill Aug 2019 #48

+++ still_one Aug 2019 #55

"should also be treated as misbehaving and excluded"? zaj Aug 2019 #49

And here it is - right here in this thread. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #88

Not trying to appall you... zaj Aug 2019 #92

The legal solution - under the ADA - is that the customer cannot be Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #95

That's not a solution... zaj Aug 2019 #98

It absolutely is the solution (not only "a," but "the" solution) Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #99

So here's an example... zaj Aug 2019 #103

It is not a valid legal argument. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #104

Don't you know us better than that by now? eShirl Aug 2019 #50

So basically they were saying, "We don't want 'your/that kind' around here"... WePurrsevere Aug 2019 #51

Competing disabilities perhaps Elmer1007 Aug 2019 #58

My husband is in his kid 60s and is legally deaf now... WePurrsevere Aug 2019 #69

It should be handled in a way that accommodates both parties, Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #72

That is what they said obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #84

stay... handmade34 Aug 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Aug 2019 #53

Outliers. Ilsa Aug 2019 #54

I'm on your side with this... Freedomofspeech Aug 2019 #56

Didn't even open the thread ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #60

This demmiblue Aug 2019 #71

People can definitely be judgmental. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #73

It's very sad ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #75

That's pretty much what my great-niece does with her son Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #89

+1 ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #96

I don't think so stevil Aug 2019 #62

I searched and read the thread you mentioned stevil Aug 2019 #64

I don't think the child or your friend should be excluded. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #63

Stick around, please. Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #65

I didn't see it loyalsister Aug 2019 #68

I want to profoundly apologize for my post. MicaelS Aug 2019 #74

Thank you! Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #90

Thanks for generalizing? SlogginThroughIt Aug 2019 #77

I'm not generalizing - I'm asking. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #86

If the manager had gone to the parents arthritisR_US Aug 2019 #78

this topic comes up from time to time but disabilities is a new twist scarytomcat Aug 2019 #79

I suspect that the response would have been very different had Bettie Aug 2019 #80

That is precisely why I asked about my ADULT friend with CP Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #85

They are wrong Bettie Aug 2019 #87

I was appalled by that thread obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #81

There were a couple of people who tried really hard to excuse their bigotry. demmiblue Aug 2019 #91

Can't one stay on DU and still talk about it? treestar Aug 2019 #94

If advocacy of blatant discrimination is acceptable on DU Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #97

I didn't even go into that thread. kcr Aug 2019 #100

Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #101