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not_the_one

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32. Americans, on the whole, are easily confused, and easily misled
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:57 PM
Aug 2019

We are easy targets for sound bites and bumper sticker slogans.

Antifa fits well with Isis and Al-Qaeda. They all, due to our media exposure to them, sound ominous.

So when the average American hears Antifa, they probably tend to think more of the anarchy proponents, rather than anti-fascists.

And the right LOVES that.

Add to that the black hoods and covering of faces, the ominous overtones increase.

How it was used in the 1930s gets lost. We should just say anti-fascists.

edit to add (per my partner, who isn't yet a member of DU ):

If Antifa wanted to be taken seriously, they would lose the masks, which denotes cowardice (like the KKK of old), act like grownups and become a legitimate organization, like NAACP, and work to educate the public about what right wing fascists are really doing.

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Whichever. Foil Nazis. nt greyl Aug 2019 #1
Fo Na mahina Aug 2019 #3
Call the Nazis: The MOFONAZI TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #43
Shh it's my secret language just for the cool kids mahina Aug 2019 #44
YES; use the full word. eShirl Aug 2019 #2
Exactly. We should start referring to Antifa as the Antifacists. Blue_true Aug 2019 #42
I sort of agree canetoad Aug 2019 #4
I don't think it's young people who made up that term. I think it was focus group tested and mahina Aug 2019 #5
I didn't know that canetoad Aug 2019 #7
woosh. nt greyl Aug 2019 #6
This will seem petty, but if you're taking back language, spell it correctly muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #8
Not petty. Thank you v mahina Aug 2019 #23
Language isn't even the problem here. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #9
Totally agree. Mike Niendorff Aug 2019 #10
My dad was anti-fascist in WWII. So were millions of others. CaptainTruth Aug 2019 #11
Anitfascists should also not be conflated with Crazyleftie Aug 2019 #12
I thought most anarachists Sgent Aug 2019 #13
Origin is historical, but yes, let's just go with the full-on English PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #14
Antifa is a traditional term going back to the early 20th century. It's what the anti-fascist lutherj Aug 2019 #15
Great post, +1000 for history PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #18
Totally agree with you, and we'll said! I didn't mean to imply that the right wants to get rid lutherj Aug 2019 #31
... PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #34
Don't be lazy about being antifascist Peasant1776 Aug 2019 #35
What a tempest in a teapot. marble falls Aug 2019 #40
My info was recalled from Mark Bray's book: Antifa: the Antifascist Handbook lutherj Aug 2019 #46
Where did they originate? kentuck Aug 2019 #16
As #14 and #15 say, the term originated in Nazi Germany, used by the people themselves muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #17
See post above on origin: Don't be Lazy about being antifascist Peasant1776 Aug 2019 #36
Yes, I just saw it being spun as anti-first amendment Arazi Aug 2019 #19
The white extremists are 2 1/2 years in PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #20
Wow. mahina Aug 2019 #25
Who cares? Don't let the right dictate what language we use. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #21
+1 HeartlandProgressive Aug 2019 #22
Disagree wholeheartedly. The purpose of words us to communicate. mahina Aug 2019 #24
Antifa is hardly a powerless word Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #29
Of course that's not what I said. mahina Aug 2019 #33
Exactly no one seems to learn that.... Historic NY Aug 2019 #26
At some point Fascist are going to get in your face. gordianot Aug 2019 #27
I want to plug Anti Na. Coz calling them all nazis is punchier, less academic. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #28
Being Antifascist is being proud of having a political stance "on the right side of history ". Triloon Aug 2019 #30
Americans, on the whole, are easily confused, and easily misled not_the_one Aug 2019 #32
Eh, they have been calling themselves that since World War II m-lekktor Aug 2019 #37
Aren't you a charmer! mahina Aug 2019 #39
Either one works for me. Iggo Aug 2019 #38
Yeah and quit calling them Nazis, its the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... marble falls Aug 2019 #41
I'm anti-fascist Dorian Gray Aug 2019 #45
I agree. spanone Aug 2019 #47
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