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Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
58. That is the point. People who consider themselves Liberal aren't "out and proud".
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:31 PM
Aug 2019

They are people who generally hold liberal ideas about freedom of ideas and some sense of general welfare. If they are White however, they are still susceptible to the idea that "too much" is being given to racial minorities. They can support integration of schools but just not their neighborhood school.

I experienced that first hand in my progressive city when our school district proposed closing schools. We fought hard to keep our neighborhood school open and were successful, but the very allies in doing so turned and turned in an ugly way, when the plan turned from keeping our school open to keeping our school open and absorbing a large percentage of poorer Latino students from the school that closed.

The article is based on a study that was done in a peer reviewed journal. The subjects were people who identified as Liberal. The results are that you can hold liberal beliefs about many different things but when it comes to the very deeply ingrained ideas about race, those liberal ideals can sometimes take a back seat.

It is an area of discomfort for many White people who identify themselves as liberals or progressives but it exists.

I am a person of color, but I still have to consciously battle against the racial attitudes that were taught to me by my family, my community, and society in general. I have members of my own family who are people of color, who were immigrants or born to immigrants, who hold ideas that are contrary to my own.

We are all susceptible to rhetoric that may align with certain values that we are not proud of, that we may not even be consciously aware of.

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No true "liberal" would ever even consider voting for drumpf or not voting at all. lark Aug 2019 #1
If they are voting for Trump and inspired by racism... jcgoldie Aug 2019 #2
Exactly my thought Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #12
Wierd concept of "Liberal" lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #22
F_K HuffPo for continuing to propogate this Bullshit. No real progressive nor those who hlthe2b Aug 2019 #3
Same page as you. This is bullshit. blm Aug 2019 #4
If they would ever consider voting for him Bettie Aug 2019 #5
Is there anything better than the HuffPo? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #6
++++++++++ comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #23
"Racially resentful liberals represent about 3 percent of the population." Hortensis Aug 2019 #7
+1 IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #20
Right. Although liberals aren't the ones who usually come to mind Hortensis Aug 2019 #52
Remind me how close Pennsylvania was? (nt) Recursion Aug 2019 #67
At less than 100K a lot less than 3%? Hortensis Aug 2019 #69
Oh yeah, there's Susan Sarandon. Anyone else? Zambero Aug 2019 #8
Yeah, what happened to that revolution she promised if trump won? brush Aug 2019 #9
That isn't what they are reporting. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #19
They are not "white liberals" by any stretch Zambero Aug 2019 #25
And the same goes with all the RW populist wawes in the Western World. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #28
Right. So offering more of the same Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #45
Every left in every country has to do this job IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #46
I don't know a single liberal who does not loathe and despise Trump. I can't see any liberals or Arkansas Granny Aug 2019 #10
Where have these Dixicrats been the last 50 years? Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #11
Mississippi went 87% for Goldwater in '64 against LBJ Zambero Aug 2019 #13
I'll be forced to agree with the poster. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #14
We also saw it in 2016 when some former Obama voters switched to trump because of so-called... brush Aug 2019 #15
Many of the ones that voted for Obama, then voted Trump were likely Meadowoak Aug 2019 #34
That's was kinda dumb though since O had saved the economy and bought the Dow from 7500... brush Aug 2019 #37
He lost money at casinos NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #62
It's still a casino. If ran correctly you shouldn't lose money even if you launder some. brush Aug 2019 #68
This is bull jcgoldie Aug 2019 #16
Agreed. "Economic anxiety" was being to kind to those whose barely under-the-surface racism surfaced brush Aug 2019 #17
Some of those people I talk about are fighting unemployment. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #18
Huffpo and Salon are not our allies. They push the comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #21
I don't disagree. My post is sort of a cautionary one to remind us not to try to appeal to the... brush Aug 2019 #24
I feel the same way about the Stein voters like Sarandon comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #27
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Freethinker65 Aug 2019 #26
If you vote for Trump, you're no liberal. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #29
I call bullshit . . . Iliyah Aug 2019 #30
Of course. But do you think some fool themselves into thinking they're liberals but aren't really... brush Aug 2019 #33
NO liberal will vote for him. If they do, they are not a liberal. spanone Aug 2019 #31
Yeah, no. Aristus Aug 2019 #32
I think it's important for people to acknowledge that being a liberal or a Democrat doesn't mean WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #35
Thank you. ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #36
Wise words. brush Aug 2019 #38
It's one thing to have Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #41
Yep, self-aware racists know who they are whereas some fool themselves and are unaware and thus... brush Aug 2019 #43
No true Scotsman, eh? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #44
Question. Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #48
That is the point. People who consider themselves Liberal aren't "out and proud". Caliman73 Aug 2019 #58
What a shitshow of a thread jpak Aug 2019 #39
Tell us how you really feel. brush Aug 2019 #40
I'm not surprised about these results in the least MrScorpio Aug 2019 #42
HuffPo forgot to credit their source: MSU----------- Atticus Aug 2019 #47
Racist white liberals? Can you use that in a sentence please? definition please? pwb Aug 2019 #49
It's said that former Obama voters in 3 mid-western states voted for trump and tilted the EC to him brush Aug 2019 #50
Its said ha? o k then. pwb Aug 2019 #51
I do not think that word means what you think it means. Jakes Progress Aug 2019 #53
It's not my word, it's from the posted article. I contend though that some fool themselves into... brush Aug 2019 #54
I was referring to the article. Jakes Progress Aug 2019 #70
bullshit. clickbait. not_the_one Aug 2019 #55
Not all together (see former O voters in midwest who tilted the EC to trump). It happens. brush Aug 2019 #59
3%? That's about the same percentage of people Onyrleft Aug 2019 #56
You nailed it. brush Aug 2019 #60
Garbage MFM008 Aug 2019 #57
Really? See the midwest former Obama voters who succumbed to alleged "economic anxiety". brush Aug 2019 #61
they were never Liberals MFM008 Aug 2019 #64
Of course not, but they might've fooled themselves inot thinking so since they had voted for O. brush Aug 2019 #65
Any "liberal" that votes for shithead - isn't a liberal. harumph Aug 2019 #63
The highlighted section is the reason? I'd say that was a reason white racists would vote for him Vinca Aug 2019 #66
I question the supposed sociology professors that conducted the survey. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #71
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