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Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:52 AM Aug 2019

Would you support US military action to save the Amazon? [View all]

Last edited Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:19 AM - Edit history (2)

Sounds like Brazil has their own mini-Trump. Given this framing of the problem with the fires in the Amazon, and a sort of crazy man running things there, it's not hard to imagine a crisis.

Pretend your favorite Dem was President and felt compelled to send in American troops to pull a coup in Brazil and seize control of the problem.

[Edit #1 for clarification: Because Brazil isn't accepting help because they elected a President who is a climate change denying, science ignoring, burn-it down crazy man.

So military intervention would be required first in order to protect any international response. And replacing the crazy man would be required to keep him from trying it again.

Edit #2: By asking that you assume it's your favored candidate taking this step, you can choose to imagine they have tried everything they thought feasible before taking this step.

I'll leave those details to you and your faith in that person.]

How would you react?


The Amazon Fires Are More Dangerous Than WMDs
One person shouldn’t have the power to set policies that doom the rest of humanity’s shot at mitigating rising temperatures.
10:35 AM ET
Franklin Foer

When Jair Bolosonaro won Brazil’s presidential election last year, having run on a platform of deforestation, David Wallace-Wells asked, “How much damage can one person do to the planet?” Bolsonaro didn’t pour lighter fluid to ignite the flames now ravishing the Amazon, but with his policies and rhetoric, he might as well have. The destruction he inspired—and allowed to rage with his days of stubborn unwillingness to douse the flames— has placed the planet at a hinge moment in its ecological history. Unfortunately, the planet doesn’t have a clue about how it should respond.

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I could support pre-emptive military attack
5 (26%)
I would oppose pre-emptive military attack
14 (74%)
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Apparently, Brazil has decided to send their troop. Here's link. Hoyt Aug 2019 #1
Would we support a foreign country's intervention here in the US to stop cattle farming? NightWatcher Aug 2019 #2
We absolutely can do something... zaj Aug 2019 #7
There is no lawful authority we could site to intervene. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #30
What about MontanaMama Aug 2019 #3
This. Control-Z Aug 2019 #6
The imagined scenario is that... zaj Aug 2019 #8
The answer we give now may not be the one we we wished for when the Amazon is gone and we all feel Doodley Aug 2019 #4
Yep zaj Aug 2019 #9
Pre-emptive military attacks should be out of the question - though Bolsonazi should still be ousted sandensea Aug 2019 #5
No Falcata Aug 2019 #10
Again, this assumes a Brazil unwilling to stop it. zaj Aug 2019 #12
Because Brazil is setting the fires in the first place Sgent Aug 2019 #25
Fuck preemptive war. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2019 #11
Would killing off 20% of the world's oxygen be... zaj Aug 2019 #13
Fuck. Preemptive. War. Iggo Aug 2019 #14
Not even trying... zaj Aug 2019 #20
Also, I owe you an apology. Iggo Aug 2019 #21
What on Earth do you think a foreign military (that is, us) can do against wildfire? Hekate Aug 2019 #15
I would support the US discussing the reality of Climate Change with Brazil. spanone Aug 2019 #16
With Trump as potus? Hekate Aug 2019 #17
it's as hypothetical as the original question spanone Aug 2019 #18
Hellfire missiles and WP aren't exactly nice to forests Recursion Aug 2019 #19
Because the Amazon acts as the planet's "lungs" Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #22
Hell no! Polybius Aug 2019 #23
We could just BUY IT HAB911 Aug 2019 #24
Agreed. Is this out of the question? mainer Aug 2019 #27
I think it would be quite the investment for a "corporation" HAB911 Aug 2019 #29
So, maybe we need to allow forests to grow back in the east, greymattermom Aug 2019 #26
Why are we jumping to military intervention? True Dough Aug 2019 #28
This is a thought experiment... zaj Aug 2019 #32
This isn't just about global warming and climate change. democratisphere Aug 2019 #31
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