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AngryOldDem

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73. I think anyone over 50...

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Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:27 AM

Aug 2012

...is just plain fucked in this society. It won't matter who is in the White House.

I'm resigned to not having a full-time job with benefits ever again. And I feel damned lucky for the temporary job that I have, which begins again in October, and will run through midsummer 2013. I enjoy the work immensely, though, which is some small consolation, I guess. I still have to pay for my own health insurance, which i just had to change here recently because my carrier pulled out of my state. I'll probably have to do that one or more times before I go off to my heavenly reward, and hope that in the meantime my health holds so that I'm insurable.

Take comfort in knowing that you're not alone, no matter how much bashing you're taking in this thread. I for one am not seeing -- nor feeling -- the hope and change I voted for four years ago. Oh yes, I will still vote for Obama, because really, what's my alternative? And isn't that a hell a thing to base a vote on?

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I AM worse off than I was four years ago. I have [View all] coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 OP

I'm sorry... CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #1

The unemployment rate in Calfiornia is 10.7% as of July. And this coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #2

I don't think anyone meant to brag or rub salt in wounds. Incitatus Aug 2012 #7

And there is plenty of help out there from the government if you aren't too anti-government to take nanabugg Aug 2012 #198

Sorry but some of us ARE better off! geesh (to quote you) n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #13

buh-bye -n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #15

"This jerk Sparkly" Sparkly Aug 2012 #16

Buh-bye - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #17

Bye, honey. I hope things turn around for you. Sparkly Aug 2012 #18

+1 Scuba Aug 2012 #45

Back in 1999, I used to hate it when pundits talked about how great the economy was hfojvt Aug 2012 #96

+ 2 JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #152

Can't handle the heat stay outa the kitchen madokie Aug 2012 #117

Bwa-ha-ha. 'Against DU Rule Bingo' is more like it, since coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #131

I personally don't care how you vote or what you base that vote on madokie Aug 2012 #149

Peoples perceptions of the economy determine presidential elections. Mimosa Aug 2012 #195

you would help your case immensely and garner more understanding CatWoman Aug 2012 #208

I'm rubber, you're glue - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #218

I'm very glad your daughter was able to get healthcare coverage. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #43

I Understand goodword Aug 2012 #62

Respectfully, I don't think that anyone knows what the ACTUAL unemployment numbers are. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #87

Understood and agreed. The 10.7% is the so-called U3 rate, IIRC, which coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #163

sorry for your situation, but who is saying that? /nt still_one Aug 2012 #3

Here's the link to the thread that got my dander up: coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #23

Thanks for the link. There are a lot of people hurting, and that is a fact. Just don't let the still_one Aug 2012 #26

Thanks for the link, so I could go rec that thread...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #67

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #86

Par for the course with that one. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #122

Agree 100%. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #180

It's the OP who's calling out and shitting on the poster of the other thread... SidDithers Aug 2012 #141

many people feel compelled to predicate their actions on those of others LanternWaste Aug 2012 #154

Wow. hifiguy Aug 2012 #140

And the OP? How about them? Are they not a "piece of work"?... SidDithers Aug 2012 #142

If DU 'sucks' why are you here all the time? Mimosa Aug 2012 #197

I guess I didn't realize that when you're on a lifeboat... SidDithers Aug 2012 #207

Thanks for reminding me to rec this thread. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #196

What a surprise...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #209

... sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #211

Yer doin' it wrong...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #212

Lol! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #214

I'm sorry, too. gateley Aug 2012 #4

Which candidate do you think gives you a chance at a better future? Incitatus Aug 2012 #5

I'm not angry or frustrated enough not to recognize that when the choice is coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #24

Obama a rightist? Buh-bye. Jeeez... dmallind Aug 2012 #85

Neither goodword Aug 2012 #63

And Mitt Romney blames President Obama for that. sadbear Aug 2012 #6

Are you kidding me? Romney is a piece of shit (no offense to coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #27

I'm sorry liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #8

You know, I'm almost 100% sure that were it not for Occupy, the center-rightist Obama would still coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #28

I actually would not be against compromise if liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #36

He'll wait until after the election to continue with his push for 'austerity'. Wait for it. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #48

100% right. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #104

Kind of how DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #53

No; kind of like how kissing a Saudi sheik stiffened Dubya. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #55

purile game? DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #79

Sorry, we are too because of out of pocket health care expenses n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2012 #9

I know that feeling liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #10

Unfortunately we'll never be paid up ... slipslidingaway Aug 2012 #32

i know exactly how you feel madrchsod Aug 2012 #11

>I don't understand, and any insight that you can provide would be appreciated. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #108

+1 AnotherMcIntosh, that's THE question. Mimosa Aug 2012 #199

YMMV. Sorry you're having a hard time of it, but you know everyone has a right to their OWN story. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #12

The reason some of us are saying that is because the repugs keep blaming Obama. jillan Aug 2012 #14

Thank you. That thread seemed so smug and self-congratulatory that I didn't coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #31

So after reading down this thread, I'm left to ask the question that always need to be asked... Skidmore Aug 2012 #44

Oh, I'm all too aware of the Do-Nothing Congress of 2010 that campaigned on coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #92

Perhaps you should have marked it as satire then and linked to the other thread. Skidmore Aug 2012 #112

It was not intended as satire, although I probably should have coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #138

I read that less as self-congratulatory, and more as a collective congratulation... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2012 #19

Wow, I wish I could get your perspective and keep it. I just have coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2012 #40

supernummerary hfojvt Aug 2012 #111

I am going to college on student loans... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #20

you're exactly right liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #21

Sorry to hear about that grantcart Aug 2012 #22

I didn't mean to offend you. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #25

+1 and thank you for saying so. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #29

I didn't realize how fucking angry I was at that smug, self-congratulatory coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #33

Somebody had to say something. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #35

I am exactly the same as you rl6214 Aug 2012 #30

I hope things turn around for you and for me soon. I know they won't with coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #34

It's becoming increasingly difficult for me rl6214 Aug 2012 #118

What are you doing to remedy that situation? Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #38

I have resumes built around four different skill sets, so coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #39

I wonder if he's tried bending over and simply pulling himself up by his bootstraps? Romulox Aug 2012 #83

Looks like that is exactly what he's doing. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #124

"Progressives" used to be ashamed of scolding the poor and the downtrodden. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #155

They also never pretended to be helpless. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #167

"They". Telling phrasing! Progressives are "they" and "them" to you. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #168

What exactly is your problem? Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #181

I have every right to challenge hateful views here. I don't care if that's a problem for *you*. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #182

Wow. Please seek help. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #183

Nonsense. I read your posts, and disagreed strongly. That's what this board is for. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #184

No, you responded with exaggerations, grossly inflated hyperbole, and outright fabrications. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #185

I responded with rhetoric intended to neutralize YOUR rhetoric. Welcome to the internet. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #186

You responded in an irrational manner. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #188

Nonsense. I responded in a manner that made you uncomfortable. That means it worked. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #189

Caught that too. Mimosa Aug 2012 #201

Well, those days are gone obviously. Now it's hard to find any compassion for those less sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #200

I know many are hurting... dennis4868 Aug 2012 #41

I'm happy for your success and appreciate your lack of coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #42

Putting all this into a broader context-- eridani Aug 2012 #46

"Bright-sided"- somehow I missed that. bananas Aug 2012 #95

Thanks for the bibliographic rec. I'll be requesting the book from coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #101

^ This should be topic! ^ Mimosa Aug 2012 #202

Maybe... jayjayusa Aug 2012 #47

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Aug 2012 #49

Oh, THAT was helpful. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #50

Well... it is good advice, all of it. Quantess Aug 2012 #59

x2 n/t AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #114

Is that you, Gina Rinehart? WinkyDink Aug 2012 #56

And Who ARE Those People goodword Aug 2012 #61

Hi Mr. Ryan gollygee Aug 2012 #66

Hahaha treestar Aug 2012 #71

Oh, YOU'RE going to last long, I can tell. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #69

+a zillion! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2012 #219

What a disgusting thing to say. I look forward to seeing your transparency page updated. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #81

Hah! My devilish scheme to update and fine tune my Ignore coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #94

...says the guy posting on the internet. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #129

Is that you, Paul Ryan? Alduin Aug 2012 #174

Maybe you should have waited to learn more about longtime DUers, sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #206

This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Aug 2012 #51

Sorry to hear your situation liberal N proud Aug 2012 #52

Here's a bit of hope for you. xmas74 Aug 2012 #54

Glad to hear of your good fortune and hoping my experience has coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #103

you might have to do so. xmas74 Aug 2012 #204

I'm so sorry for what you're going through magical thyme Aug 2012 #57

Thank you and I'm really sorry to hear about what you've been going through. It's the coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #105

Been Here....Twice goodword Aug 2012 #58

Grammar Nazi here: I don't think we have 'literally' been coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #106

Here's an original song to cheer you up: Quantess Aug 2012 #60

That's pretty cold to someone who's having a hard time.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #78

I suppose. Quantess Aug 2012 #123

I don't find pissing on someone who is down and hurting to be comical.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #127

I have not had a middle class income for several years now. Quantess Aug 2012 #134

I'm marginally better off no than 4 years ago, but nothing to dance a jig about deutsey Aug 2012 #64

It's a sad thing when people are thrilled their adult kids can rely on their health insurance. dkf Aug 2012 #65

Yes indeed. 99Forever Aug 2012 #75

Nailed it. 27 year olds don't need healthcare, donchaknow? Nor to 26 year olds whose parents are Romulox Aug 2012 #82

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #128

I think you raise a valid point: we are the party of reality IdaBriggs Aug 2012 #68

As I read through the responses to my OP, I'm struck by the idea coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #110

Sorry for your troubles, but Sparkly posted that thread in support of the president. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #70

No! A thousand times no! On DU only endless eternal doom and rat-stew predictions are welcome. nt dmallind Aug 2012 #89

I'm not personally better off treestar Aug 2012 #72

I think anyone over 50... AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #73

Thanks. As I noted earlier upthread, I am struck by how many have lost coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #115

I wish Health Care Reform had gone farther revolution breeze Aug 2012 #74

Sorry for you, but at least you have some IRAs to liquidate. Some folks blew theirs with ENRON. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #76

thank you Enrique Aug 2012 #77

Have You Thought About Volunteering? Yavin4 Aug 2012 #80

he has been unemployed for about two years Enrique Aug 2012 #88

I was Unemployed for Two Years from 2008 to 2010, and I volunteered. Yavin4 Aug 2012 #91

same here, same time period Enrique Aug 2012 #93

I also got a job through volunteering. AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #100

Good idea. I've volunteered in the past (with a Literacy\Tutoring coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #121

I'm with you... SomethingFishy Aug 2012 #84

Yeah, I must confess that a couple of the responses from coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #125

Yeah, I know enough people who are worse off that I think the question isn't the best one for Brickbat Aug 2012 #90

Seriously, framing the debate as "Are you better or worse off than coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #126

Under Republicans the economy would have kept on plummeting. Festivito Aug 2012 #97

Some people should take the time to read the entire thread before coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #99

Read it, fine. Wisdom was mine. Made a mistake: No pearls before swine. Festivito Aug 2012 #137

Well, aren't you just the ass-onant one today - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #139

Oo, oo, oo, Mr. Co-a-ter. That almost said sump'n impotant. /nt Festivito Aug 2012 #145

I'm sorry for your situation, truly, but I won't refuse to be glad for mine. nolabear Aug 2012 #98

I'm better off than I was 4 yrs ago, but way worse off than I was 3 yrs ago. Zorra Aug 2012 #102

I am so sorry! abelenkpe Aug 2012 #107

sorry for your troubles larkrake Aug 2012 #109

I'm sorry for your situation Bettie Aug 2012 #113

Sorry to hear that. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #116

Let me put this bluntly: I think your op is mean spirited and selfish. cali Aug 2012 #119

here, let me do it for you: buh bye cali Aug 2012 #120

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #136

Well, there are 33 recs for this 'nasty op' right now, so maybe I'm coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #135

Honey... renie408 Aug 2012 #159

Abso-fucking-lutely... SidDithers Aug 2012 #143

+10000 renie408 Aug 2012 #156

Im all for free speach, but i cant believe the DU is allowing threads who diss our pressie darkangel218 Aug 2012 #130

yes..much better to lie???? the truth is good enough, always xiamiam Aug 2012 #146

Another bootstrapper. And one who is concerned for "our pressie" (sic). Romulox Aug 2012 #176

And right there is the whole problem with our political system. One team adores their sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #213

Do You Still Have Your Health? The River Aug 2012 #132

I'm not sure how to respond. I clearly know that there are people far worse off coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #144

Thank You The River Aug 2012 #147

Thank you for your good wishes and I'm sending mine back to you for coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #148

Unbelievable. It's ok that you're hopeless and poor--because I'm old! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #177

I hear you. Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2012 #133

^ +1 ^ n/t Mimosa Aug 2012 #205

I feel your pain. I am no better off either. I can not get work.. mvd Aug 2012 #150

Careful or you'll be accused of being an 'other asshole' who is coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #162

I just found out last week that I'm going to be unemployed for the second time this year Hydra Aug 2012 #151

Thanks for that. Between your post and the posts accusing me coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #160

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #153

+1... SidDithers Aug 2012 #157

+1 ceile Aug 2012 #164

some people live in a bubble of privilege and so its quinnox Aug 2012 #158

Thank you. It breaks my heart to have to choose between keeping coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #161

Sorry for your troubles, but you don't have the right to dictate other people's posts. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #165

You're right, but I don't think I was dictating anyone's post, merely coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #170

Way to shit on a fellow DUer. ceile Aug 2012 #166

Rolls/Royce & Rove(R)'s sole plan is to divide US Amonester Aug 2012 #171

Let's see. I've been called 'selfish,' 'smug, 'mean-spirited, a 'whiner,' an 'other asshole,' and coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #173

That person has as much right to celebrate their situation as you do to lament yours. stevenleser Aug 2012 #172

Oh, no question that Obama and the Dems will be better for coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #175

Are you 'jealous' of them being better off and celebrating? Amonester Aug 2012 #179

Yeah, in retrospect, I probably should have simply trashed the thread. And coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #191

This is one of the grossest threads I've ever read on DU. I really am having a hard time believing Romulox Aug 2012 #178

Shocking, isn't it? Hydra Aug 2012 #187

I've been campaigning and volunteering for Dems since coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #190

oh please. hateful? I find the op mean spirited. cali Aug 2012 #192

I thought you had bid this thread (and\or me) adieu a long time ago, but coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #217

The OP got the ball rolling in that respect...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #210

It is certainly a revealing thread. What it says to me is that there are now Democrats sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #215

Sorry about the troubles. Solution to 'bad' speech is more speech not censoring / calls to "stop it" Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #193

Coalition_unwilling, my heart goes out to you Mimosa Aug 2012 #194

. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #203

Sorry to hear your situation Billy888 Aug 2012 #216