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maxrandb

(17,343 posts)
60. When I was in the Navy
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 07:04 PM
Aug 2019

A senior officer once told me that I should never be behind closed doors with a female Sailor. I told him that was bullshit.

As a department head, I often had to counsel Sailors privately... the whole praise in public-criticize in private thing.

Anyway, I was able to tell him that because I was a Mustang Officer...an LDO that advanced to Senior Chief as an enlisted, and earned a commission as a Navy Officer...we didn't take much shit, even from senior officers.

I always believed and tried to demonstrate that you didn't treat women differently... you treated all your folks simply as Sailors.

I also firmly believed that my reputation and my record would insulate me from any false claims of harrassment or discrimination.

Know what I found out? If you treat people with respect and dignity... you have nothing to worry about.

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Yup. ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #13
That is pretty much what I was was thinking. DFW Aug 2019 #30
Well, well, well lunatica Aug 2019 #10
No,I don't remember when women felt the same way. virgogal Aug 2019 #22
Lucky you. lunatica Aug 2019 #23
Of course some of it's punishment. Not making excuses for Hortensis Aug 2019 #11
As a man who is not a misogynist. I never take criticism personally. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #16
At least you were investigated and cleared eissa Aug 2019 #20
:) That's the balance we need. You are not a fearful person Hortensis Aug 2019 #24
It isn't that I am not fearful. I have many fears. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #25
I didn't feel under attack under the height of #MeToo JonLP24 Aug 2019 #18
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not all men................................................../s /nt Cerridwen Aug 2019 #12
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When I was in the Navy maxrandb Aug 2019 #60
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