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119. they deported a 14 year old girl.......

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Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:51 PM

Jan 2012

People should not be outraged?

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WTF??? a 14 year old **American** girl is deported to Bogata and is now in jail there?????? [View all] Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 OP

And has been told (according to her grandmother) she has to pay for the ticket home. spooky3 Jan 2012 #1

jeeez spanone Jan 2012 #2

Her own fault for being a runaway of the wrong skin tone LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #3

or using a false identity who was also her Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10

She's fourteen. EFerrari Jan 2012 #43

I would wager most 14 year old's don't have similar problems. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #54

What does that mean to you? EFerrari Jan 2012 #71

What crimes should 14 year old's be exempted for? If she was who she said she was, should she Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #83

If anything, there was a crime committed against her by the agencies entrusted EFerrari Jan 2012 #91

You did not answer: If she had been who she claimed to be, should she have been deported? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #92

she shouldn't be deported for crimes she didn't commit CreekDog Jan 2012 #100

If you claim to commit crimes, then sometimes you are punished for those crimes. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #105

while announcing your ignorance of the topic CreekDog Jan 2012 #114

Please release the details of the case you worked on. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #122

At 14 years old, if she had committed those crimes, she would have had the same warrant out for her riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #141

Please link to where 22 year old's prints were on file. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #212

yes, if a 14 year old says the wrong thing, it's okay to deport them to Colombia CreekDog Jan 2012 #99

If she claimed she was responsible for another crime and all that existed was her claim Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #125

what if she wants to drink? CreekDog Jan 2012 #137

If you can't be identified, but have committed a crime what is your suggestion? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #138

you're saying to punish the unidentified child for a crime of an identified adult? CreekDog Jan 2012 #140

this girl identified herself. NT Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #144

and if she said she was Halle Berry, would you serve her alcohol? CreekDog Jan 2012 #145

you see no difference between the two claims? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #148

you think what happened to her was okay, you think ICE was careful enough CreekDog Jan 2012 #152

Never said any of that. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #155

But law enforcement should have waited for verification from the fingerprints xmas74 Jan 2012 #180

Please point to what you have read. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #181

CBS News xmas74 Jan 2012 #188

But we do not know if hers or her claimed identity's finger prints were on file. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #189

they should verify that you are who they *think* you are CreekDog Jan 2012 #175

I don't disagree. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #179

I used to work in a police department. xmas74 Jan 2012 #182

So if no one claimed you, would you be detained indefinitely? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #184

You would go in front of a judge xmas74 Jan 2012 #190

Interesting. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #192

If you do not seem as though you are xmas74 Jan 2012 #198

so if I get pulled over for a DUI and say that I'm Joseph Mengele CreekDog Jan 2012 #186

I will wait for more info on the case. I suggest you do the same. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #187

You're a flight risk. xmas74 Jan 2012 #199

She should have claimed to be Tahitian Scairp Jan 2012 #174

Just out of curiosity Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #178

Um yeah Scairp Jan 2012 #183

Agree completely and I can't believe people who defend ICE/DHS on this think they can't be competent CreekDog Jan 2012 #196

The police polmaven Jan 2012 #73

She was 14 and no, they fucked up bigtime by not even checking. Rights, my granny. nt EFerrari Jan 2012 #93

you're saying that if they deport a 12-13 year old, they checked thoroughly enough for you? CreekDog Jan 2012 #101

She is getting younger? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #106

apparently none CreekDog Jan 2012 #113

I had heard in another article that she was 14 when deported. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #123

No, she's older now Scairp Jan 2012 #202

But in NY walerosco Jan 2012 #117

is she 14 now? barbtries Jan 2012 #74

She's 15 now, 14 when deported. tammywammy Jan 2012 #78

She didn't have a boyfriend obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #61

That was my first thought ... etherealtruth Jan 2012 #201

You know how common is for runaway kids to nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author October Jan 2012 #209

so what has she been doing in Colombia to survive? Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #4

Well Colombia officials gave her a work card and she is reportedly pregnant. RC Jan 2012 #6

From the OP article: tammywammy Jan 2012 #9

Now the whole thing makes even less sense Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #12

Not everyone knows to contact the State Department, let alone that there is one. nt justiceischeap Jan 2012 #15

a 15 yr old knows how to pick up a phone and dial, anyway. seabeyond Jan 2012 #19

That very well could be true but it doesn't have anything to do with my reply. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #20

i am not arguing the exportation. you had stated state dept seabeyond Jan 2012 #21

I was replying to the guy that stated she should have called the State Dept. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #30

wink, lol. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #32

2 guys arrested in Ala for being "illegals" dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #76

Are you going to tell us what happened to them? nt DocMac Jan 2012 #135

They threatened to sue dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #143

Thanks for the info. nt DocMac Jan 2012 #158

i know, that was just an example... Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #35

Thinking back to what I would do Charlemagne Jan 2012 #47

I would have known to find an embassy, but only because I remember what happened in Iran... Ian David Jan 2012 #40

At age 15 I wouldn't have known to look for Ilsa Jan 2012 #38

Even though I suspect she didn't want to go home justiceischeap Jan 2012 #49

couldn't get access to a phone but could update facebook?? Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #107

Because she didn't want to be found metalbot Jan 2012 #39

She didn't have a 30-year-old boyfriend obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #42

Thank you for this post. So appropriate. October Jan 2012 #210

We have juvenile courts for precisely these cases. EFerrari Jan 2012 #50

I doubt a presumed illegal alien would be tried in juvenile court. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #55

It was very easy to show she wasn't the wanted Colombian woman obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #63

You worked on the case as well? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #89

The finger prints would show that she's not the wanted woman. neverforget Jan 2012 #149

So we're sure she had fingerprints on file? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #156

are you seriously trying to defend ICE? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #206

No. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #213

Why? Documented or not, they are still human and when minors, still juveniles. EFerrari Jan 2012 #69

I do not believe there is a juvenile immigration court. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #90

CPS, juvenile authorities and immigration work together all the time. nt EFerrari Jan 2012 #96

Yes, but if you are being charged with immigration violations then you go to the appropriate court. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #97

The system failed her because she was a minor. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #52

It failed her because of her lies and her insistense on sticking with them. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #57

Wrong -- they didn't do due diligence obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #65

You oversaw the case? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #85

I imagine your absolutist conclusion warrants the same... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #102

My conclusion is anything but absolute Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #104

a most absolute statement, with no room for variation or interpretation... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #159

That is definitely a part of it. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #160

Yet still an absolute statement lacking any relevant proofs LanternWaste Jan 2012 #166

No proof she lied? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #168

You may believe or disbelieve anything you want to... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #169

Since neither or either may or may not have happened or not happened somewhere or nowhere then Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #170

However you imply that you know... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #172

Her lies don't explain how ICE failed to see through the false identity. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #72

Speculation. Not sure what was on file for the drug mule. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #86

SO, a 14 year old can fool ICE... that is so embarrassing fascisthunter Jan 2012 #207

Yes, can happen. Frank Abagnale also fooled a lot of adults. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #214

OK, now it's starting to add up... Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #108

That can't be 15 and 20 dollars. It must be pesos.nt EFerrari Jan 2012 #46

What in the holy fucking hell was that! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #5

wtf fishwax Jan 2012 #7

That is. Seriously. Fucked. Up. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #8

Two wrongs don't make a right! MADem Jan 2012 #11

She's lucky a drone didn't take her out permanently. Octafish Jan 2012 #13

Horrible. It's sad that Ibrahim al-Banna, the drone target allowed civilians near him. msanthrope Jan 2012 #22

Why is that? RZM Jan 2012 #112

The fact they carry them out at all is the problem. Octafish Jan 2012 #127

I see your point RZM Jan 2012 #129

The authorities determined the girl was a wanted woman and kicked her out of the country. Octafish Jan 2012 #131

You'd have a better point if the girl had given her real name RZM Jan 2012 #134

I hope she learned her lesson surfdog Jan 2012 #14

I hope when the government comes for you someone is there to speak up for you, because coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #16

Excuse me ? surfdog Jan 2012 #18

and if you did lie to the police Enrique Jan 2012 #24

If I told them I was a Columbian drug mule they might. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #58

Who didn't match the description obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #64

They had her fingerprints on file? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #84

We have federal standards for child abuse prevention. We have juvenile court systems. EFerrari Jan 2012 #53

She's a kid for Gods sakes... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #154

Another person who needs to announce the usage of the ignore list joeglow3 Jan 2012 #44

You make it sound like this was the Dreyfus case or something RZM Jan 2012 #116

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #151

You don't have to pity the girl but the police are in the wrong here too justiceischeap Jan 2012 #17

I agree surfdog Jan 2012 #23

let's NOT blame the police Enrique Jan 2012 #25

John McCain is that you? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #26

Here's a fact some of you just can't handle surfdog Jan 2012 #28

Here's a fact. She was 14. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #56

Did she change her fingerprints to teh wanted woman's? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #66

She was a 14 year old kid who knew she was in trouble for running away. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #77

I would probably tell the truth when they took me to the airport. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #88

The odds for black kids are probably better in Russian Roulette. EFerrari Jan 2012 #94

So, you don't think it is the duty of the police or ICE justiceischeap Jan 2012 #31

Which appears as absurd as blaming a deportation... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #103

She was a 14-year-old kid obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #41

This is where DU confuses me joeglow3 Jan 2012 #48

Please link to where I said that obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #60

Never said I blamed you. joeglow3 Jan 2012 #133

Compare the posters here with the posters on that thread. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #62

Exactly obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #68

Any case of "everyone" on DU agreeing on anything involving kids is fictitious. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #194

You're a little late. I addressed this already. nt. joeglow3 Jan 2012 #197

she doesn't need your pity, nor does she need anything else from you DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #79

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #82

Most ridulous thing I've read on this thread so far n/t ceile Jan 2012 #161

But, but, but...she "Looked" Columbian.... nt NorthCarolina Jan 2012 #27

Oh please stop already surfdog Jan 2012 #29

I believe this young woman is African-American... so, um, yeah. nt justiceischeap Jan 2012 #33

Yep... WillyT Jan 2012 #51

Is it just me, or do others think rusty fender Jan 2012 #34

not just you G_j Jan 2012 #37

That's what I thought the first time I heard the name obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #45

I think so too. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #67

Sadly, even the Gestapo was at least halfway competent in their duties Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #124

criminal negligence nt G_j Jan 2012 #36

By the way . . . the name of the country in which Bogata is located is spelled C-O-L-O-M-B-I-A Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #59

Bogot� Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #70

Touche! Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #95

African American malaise Jan 2012 #75

What? RZM Jan 2012 #120

Honey, having a permanent tan and permed hair has always been enough Ecumenist Jan 2012 #200

The poor thing Marrah_G Jan 2012 #80

From the sounds of it, she wanted to leave the country... octothorpe Jan 2012 #111

It boggles the mind how they could mistake her for a 22 year old Columbian woman Marrah_G Jan 2012 #118

ICE might not have realized she was 14 treestar Jan 2012 #81

According to a report on MSNBC, they did come back. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #126

Maybe ICE should have access to that database treestar Jan 2012 #128

Apparently she picked an associate of her boyfriend flamingdem Jan 2012 #132

He was NOT her boyfriend, please quit saying that obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #147

Well, she's not white, so she's not a "real" American... arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #87

If we didn't follow policy in veifying ID, then ultimately we're to blame, but the girl aikoaiko Jan 2012 #98

How many people allowed this to happen without questioning it? octothorpe Jan 2012 #110

This story seems to be an excuse for outrage generation flamingdem Jan 2012 #115

they deported a 14 year old girl....... Marrah_G Jan 2012 #119

No. The real story appears to be complex. flamingdem Jan 2012 #130

She is Fourteen Years Old Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #139

She could have contacted her family or told immigration at any time flamingdem Jan 2012 #150

Your complete awareness of her family/home situation fascinates me. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #195

I just checked out her FB page ecstatic Jan 2012 #142

Everyone needs to calm down here RZM Jan 2012 #121

Apparently she is a liar, a thief and an idiot. Don't we have more than enough Republicans already Fourier Jan 2012 #136

Outrageous. Unacceptable! n/t Catherina Jan 2012 #146

Actually this is a funny story. Well, except for her getting pregnant, but otherwise humorous. Quartermass Jan 2012 #153

i'm sorry you feel the Dept. of Homeland Security staff can get tricked by a 14 year old CreekDog Jan 2012 #157

I'm sorry you think they're Gods and can make no mistakes. Quartermass Jan 2012 #165

i'm tired of foolishness --is this the only person with that name in the world? CreekDog Jan 2012 #167

Stop the hyperbole. Quartermass Jan 2012 #171

Woohoo! Get to use my favorite "facepalm" ceile Jan 2012 #162

I imagine an older gentleman would rationalize his actions the same way after a younger teen.. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #173

This issue is not the same thing as child molestation. I love the stealth insult there. Quartermass Jan 2012 #177

I agree with you. Lasher Jan 2012 #203

Thank you. Quartermass Jan 2012 #208

UPDATE: Jakadrien is on her way home now pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #163

She will catch hell from granma flamingdem Jan 2012 #164

Grandma says she's not mad pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #185

WTF about getting deported yet i was a cathar Jan 2012 #176

There are many run-aways... for many reasons October Jan 2012 #211

You can get deported or killed just for livin' in your American skin loyalsister Jan 2012 #191

Well I dodged a bullet Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2012 #193

Did they deport you to Uranus? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #205

We have idiots and jackasses working at ICE fascisthunter Jan 2012 #204