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DBoon

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30. You mean like those "how to survive a nuclear attack" guides?

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:22 AM

Sep 2019

The proper response isn't "save your ass" medical first aid.

The proper response is political protest to remove the source of the problem. This is a political problem and calls for political action, not medical self-help. A mass shooting is not a random act of nature, it is an entirely predictable outcome of a society awash in guns where shooting is seen as a way to settle scores.

The Thatcher government published a guide to surviving a nuclear attack called "Protect and Survive"

The anti-nuclear movement responded with "Protest and Survive". We need to do the same for guns.

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An Odessa doctor is on cnn saying every American needs to learn how to compress a gunshot wound [View all] Demovictory9 Sep 2019 OP

And how exactly are we all supposed to learn this? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #1

Look for "emergency trauma care" classes; companies in your area that focus on risk assessment, WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #22

"Stop the Bleed" classes at your local hospital or EMS. (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2019 #25

Cover the wound. Keep pressur in it. Elevate it above the heart if possible. underpants Sep 2019 #27

Its not hard. I keep this in my car. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #48

Interesting! JudyM Sep 2019 #52

it is basic first aid rampartc Sep 2019 #2

I saved a woman once with the Heimlich maneuver lunatica Sep 2019 #6

I saved my son with Heimlich maneuver, too. I'd only seen it on TV, never had a class. Liberty Belle Sep 2019 #9

My mom saved me with it when I was a little kid mucifer Sep 2019 #12

I took a combat life saver course for the Army Reserve. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #3

it is the sick hell we are in dweller Sep 2019 #4

No!!!!! I don't want to learn how to compress or sew gunshot wounds! Initech Sep 2019 #5

+1000 sinkingfeeling Sep 2019 #21

+1,000,000 Canoe52 Sep 2019 #28

I feel exactly the same way. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #32

+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #37

Right! DavidDvorkin Sep 2019 #53

Really... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #54

If it makes you feel better -- the same techniques work for wounds from other causes. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #55

There's only one solution: tough gun control laws. procon Sep 2019 #7

Yes. AllyCat Sep 2019 #16

What sick hell is this, indeed. Sarajevo. Northern Ireland. Beirut. Syria. All places that descended Hekate Sep 2019 #8

But we didn't in 1995, when gunshot wounds were twice as common? Recursion Sep 2019 #10

What? Where were gunshot wounds twice as common in 1995? AllyCat Sep 2019 #17

OMG yes. Law & Order was a plausible TV premise back then; it's absurd now Recursion Sep 2019 #19

Actually *more* than twice as common, across the country, in 1993 vs. 2011, and it's still dropping. sir pball Sep 2019 #35

Here is good advice on how to treat a bullet wound, if you must: Liberty Belle Sep 2019 #11

Thank you. nt oasis Sep 2019 #40

American Red Cross sells a kit. xmas74 Sep 2019 #13

The Red Cross should include it in their woodsprite Sep 2019 #14

We're well beyond that: schools are putting tourniquets in classrooms & teaching how to do so: hlthe2b Sep 2019 #15

There's nothing wrong with that or learning basic first aid. elocs Sep 2019 #18

More kids were getting shot in schools 30 years ago; we just didn't care Recursion Sep 2019 #20

So, we're all supposed to be happy about how things are going, these days? (nt) Paladin Sep 2019 #33

Of course not, it's still a huge issue that needs sweeping reforms sir pball Sep 2019 #36

You and I might not be so lucky..... Paladin Sep 2019 #39

And I'm far less likely to be lucky when I get in a car. sir pball Sep 2019 #41

Your expression of scorn for lesser beings is noted. (nt) Paladin Sep 2019 #42

I don't feel any scorn for anyone sir pball Sep 2019 #43

53 years ago, the mother of a schoolmate of mine was murdered. Paladin Sep 2019 #45

That's not an unreasonable response, especially when it did personally affect you sir pball Sep 2019 #46

It's good to keep your fears rational, but as the song goes, elocs Sep 2019 #59

Agreed, especially about the cycling. elocs Sep 2019 #58

Nice strawman argument you present just so you can easily knock it down. elocs Sep 2019 #57

Wow, I can't get anything past you, can I? (nt) Paladin Sep 2019 #60

Preparation is never a bad thing. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #23

Trauma Room Scene (and they have all that equipment and know-how) Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #31

Devolution. spanone Sep 2019 #24

I ask myself this same question over and over again.... FM123 Sep 2019 #26

Maybe instead we should learn to get rid of guns DBoon Sep 2019 #29

You mean like those "how to survive a nuclear attack" guides? DBoon Sep 2019 #30

I wonder why the NRA isn't proposing this? gulliver Sep 2019 #34

It's NOT "where we are." But understandable if he's upset that Hortensis Sep 2019 #38

"Every American"? Fuck. Him. (and CNN) nt live love laugh Sep 2019 #44

I'ma public school teacher of young kids. This was part of our back to school training RayOfHope Sep 2019 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Sep 2019 #49

He is doing what he can. At least he's willing to offer up some ideas gldstwmn Sep 2019 #50

We have to become battlefield medics in our own communities. Historic NY Sep 2019 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #56

Everyone should have standard first aid training. Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #61

FYI, StopTheBleed.org and BleedControl.org have classes mitch96 Sep 2019 #62