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90. You say "politics shouldn't come into play" - and then you list several reasons how impeachment can

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Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:33 PM

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] mysteryowl Sep 2019 OP

If people don't vote then they have no say in the outcome of the election. That is not very smart. walkingman Sep 2019 #1

I know that, but people need action from Rep. Pelosi and dem majority mysteryowl Sep 2019 #2

Bless your heart. "People" do NOT want action and say NO. Hortensis Sep 2019 #19

This! mcar Sep 2019 #22

Well said. ++++++ still_one Sep 2019 #55

"Sizable majority" of Dems? Source ref please... Magoo48 Sep 2019 #82

Sizeable majority of the entire population still does NOT want impeachment. Source... Hekate Sep 2019 #88

Thanks, Hekate. As said, all recent polls. Hortensis Sep 2019 #97

They don't know what they want Butterflylady Sep 2019 #120

Here? Don't you mean out "there"? Hortensis Sep 2019 #121

Right...everything happening now is totally cool Bettie Sep 2019 #117

Well, we might have argued this point before. PatrickforO Sep 2019 #164

And if that action EMPOWERED THE REPBULICANS to enlarge Hortensis Sep 2019 #167

However G_j Sep 2019 #198

:) No one does, G_j. But let's face it, very few people listen Hortensis Sep 2019 #199

Shit, the idiot has been on a rampage, and Democratic leaders are nowhere to be seen on TV dalton99a Sep 2019 #3

It is very discouraging dems are so quite. I don't get it. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #5

Who is your rep? nt SunSeeker Sep 2019 #20

Who is your representative? Hekate Sep 2019 #89

Are they invited on shows? Remember all media gives cons a 4-1 advantage in Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #126

With 135 members in favor of impeachment hearings, she will have to do something. femmocrat Sep 2019 #4

This is encouraging. I hope you are right. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #26

135 out of 435. -- not gonna cut it yet stopdiggin Sep 2019 #49

Bazinga! George II Sep 2019 #51

Why? That leaves her 82 votes short of the number needed to pass a resolution. onenote Sep 2019 #98

Impeachment does not remove Trump from office redstateblues Sep 2019 #6

We all know the senate's role mysteryowl Sep 2019 #10

Of course " impeachment in the house can happen without being sent to the senate for a vote." pangaia Sep 2019 #67

It doesn't have to go to the Senate for trial. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #155

I oppose impeachment Locutusofborg Sep 2019 #70

"We all need action" ehrnst Sep 2019 #174

If the House never moves to impeach, he will go on a victory parade. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #15

He will go on a victory parade even if he's removed by force. The Chosen one isn't sane so that uponit7771 Sep 2019 #21

Tell that to the poster I was responding to. nt SunSeeker Sep 2019 #29

So you're fine with however insanely he might specifically react to an impeachment ehrnst Sep 2019 #183

Yes, he's going to act insane anyway ... I'm thinking he's already going to light a frog nuke uponit7771 Sep 2019 #184

So why even bother with impeachment? Seriously... ehrnst Sep 2019 #185

Exposure, get his approval numbers in the 20s like Nixon and Hitler and if he steals another electio uponit7771 Sep 2019 #186

" I'm thinking he's already going to light a frog nuke" ehrnst Sep 2019 #187

"If you're so sure he's going to nuke everything no matter what" are not my words, they're yours uponit7771 Sep 2019 #188

What is a 'frog nuke" then, and what scenario with Trump dropping a nuke doesn't end ehrnst Sep 2019 #189

Frag nuke is a tactical nuke, and he'll drop it o. Detroit cause there are a lot of brown people uponit7771 Sep 2019 #190

This election is a referendum on Trump. I don't buy the "it will suppress voting" argument redstateblues Sep 2019 #39

If it's a referendum on Trump, an impeachment inquiry will showcase his corruption. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #73

You're conflating an impeachment inquiry with impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #81

NO you are. Stop with the straw man arguments. I am NOT calling for a vote on articles right now. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #100

Lol StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #109

Thank you SunSeeker LEW Sep 2019 #86

And if the house does nothing he will Bettie Sep 2019 #119

we need to impeach Moscow Mitch RicROC Sep 2019 #7

As if the Republican Senate would do that redstateblues Sep 2019 #11

I think we have a long list of impeachments in the queue. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #12

Impeaching a Senator is not a constitutionally settled matter standingtall Sep 2019 #30

The accepted view is that Senators and House members cannot be impeached. onenote Sep 2019 #99

True but the first person ever impeached was a Senator standingtall Sep 2019 #101

I doubt what happened over 200 years ago means too much. former9thward Sep 2019 #136

True StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #139

right now there is no reason to challenge it because Congress generally agrees standingtall Sep 2019 #142

The President is in the Executive branch. former9thward Sep 2019 #146

Again it already happened though the house already impeached someone in the Senate standingtall Sep 2019 #148

No court will uphold the house impeaching a member of the Senate. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #153

It "already happened" and the Senate rejected the validity FBaggins Sep 2019 #177

Not until after the Senate sent the Sergeant of Arms down to Tennessee to bring Blount to trial in standingtall Sep 2019 #182

That isn't how precedent works FBaggins Sep 2019 #191

The Senate is not a court of law nor does the constitution give the Senate primacy over the standingtall Sep 2019 #193

feel better? CatWoman Sep 2019 #8

about what? mysteryowl Sep 2019 #9

Thank you ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #13

You are welcome mysteryowl Sep 2019 #14

I was talking to CatWoman ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #16

I was responding to you mysteryowl Sep 2019 #23

... CatWoman Sep 2019 #45

This thread is hilarious ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #84

... mysteryowl Sep 2019 #112

Nadler has already started process uponit7771 Sep 2019 #17

Thankfully! mysteryowl Sep 2019 #24

Some people on DU: OPEN AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY NOW! StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #33

+1 sheshe2 Sep 2019 #56

I think you may be onto something mcar Sep 2019 #58

I wonder the same thing. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #71

"might have another agenda" TwilightZone Sep 2019 #79

Some "Why won't they open an impeachment inquiry" people be like: StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #83

Dangit ... I was trying not to think this. A thread on this we can link would prolly help uponit7771 Sep 2019 #85

I wonder why there is not a lot of reporting being done on the fact that Trump is under an mysteryowl Sep 2019 #113

It's not all that quiet to anyone paying attention. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #118

Shhh. Be vewy vewy quiet mcar Sep 2019 #124

Good, glad these sources are reporting on it. Now we need the networks to report on it. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #149

Are you serious? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #151

What do you consider to be "mainstream?" (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #175

Citation please? FBaggins Sep 2019 #178

Here you go StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #179

That's strange. Someone must have hacked your account and deleted the citation FBaggins Sep 2019 #180

Lol. Whatever StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #181

Lol indeed. You first. FBaggins Sep 2019 #192

In other words, you have no answer. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #194

What an ironic reply FBaggins Sep 2019 #195

Now you're being ridiculous StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #196

In other words... you can't admit it FBaggins Sep 2019 #197

Right. House is not in session; that's why things are quiet. I am getting impatient anyway. triron Sep 2019 #102

Just because the House isn't in session doesn't mean there's not a lot going on behind the scenes StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #127

Me too, I'm hopeful though uponit7771 Sep 2019 #165

The House is back in session September 9. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #18

I gave up trying, I can't through to my reps office, there is so much national controversy. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #25

Check your rep's website. They often have a local number you can call. Also, CrispyQ Sep 2019 #27

Local numbers are the best. Senators often have several yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #74

Sometimes the only way to get through to Cory Gardner is to call his western slope office. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #76

Nonsense. With Moscow Mitch in the duma, conviction is impossible. PSPS Sep 2019 #28

Trump should be impeached regardless of what Moscow Mitch will do standingtall Sep 2019 #34

Impeached in the house, certain acquittal in the senate, victory lap, "total exoneration." Bad idea. PSPS Sep 2019 #42

Name one President that was impeached in their first term that got reelected? standingtall Sep 2019 #47

Name one former president who, together with the senate majority leader, were russian assets. PSPS Sep 2019 #57

Impeachment is already underway StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #31

No one is going to believe it is a formal impeachment inquiry regardless of what congress says standingtall Sep 2019 #32

First of all, that's not going to happen. And if they tried it, the vote would fail. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #37

If impeachment is going to happen it requires the full house to vote on it standingtall Sep 2019 #38

The House votes on Articles of Impeachment AFTER an investigation StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #40

There are less than 2 years before Nov 2020 standingtall Sep 2019 #44

Nadler said he expects to have a decision on Articles by the end of the year StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #52

An impeachment inquiry is going on right now mcar Sep 2019 #60

Because without it a vote, some people have an excuse to continue to bash Democrats? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #68

Nothing is ever good enough for some mcar Sep 2019 #72

I keep hearing people say wryter2000 Sep 2019 #110

It seems to be just that mcar Sep 2019 #125

The person I was responding to said a vote for an impeachment inquiry would fail standingtall Sep 2019 #122

Common sense says things aren't static and the fact there's not support today to open an inquiry StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #130

What makes you so sure Nadler and Pelosi are even in agreement here? standingtall Sep 2019 #160

Because Nadler has repeatedly said they are StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #161

only 14 months until November of 2020 standingtall Sep 2019 #162

"people who are complaining the loudest ... have another agenda" - Pretty obvious, isn't it? PSPS Sep 2019 #43

Especially when they are also advocating for not voting dansolo Sep 2019 #46

No one here is advocating not voting not everyone is a member of standingtall Sep 2019 #48

How will we lose votes if the House doesn't impeach? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #54

Doesn't matter if it's illogical stupid or otherwise such people exist and we need every vote we can standingtall Sep 2019 #59

As I said, anyone dumb enough to refuse to vote against Trump because he wasn't impeached StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #61

Sometimes the right thing to do and the political calculation can be one in the same standingtall Sep 2019 #65

It's getting to be pretty obvious to me. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #53

Or another, simpler explanation wryter2000 Sep 2019 #111

That is it for me. bdamomma Sep 2019 #35

K&R... spanone Sep 2019 #36

Well, I feel your frustration and agree with you. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #41

we're all frustrated -- that doesn't change the score card stopdiggin Sep 2019 #62

I stand by my remarks. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #66

stand where you want stopdiggin Sep 2019 #75

I don't like your tone, I'm not your enemy. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #80

You say "politics shouldn't come into play" - and then you list several reasons how impeachment can StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #90

He should be impeached because it's the right thing to do. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #93

Interesting StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #106

We both take the same position on this. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #116

Thank you, I appreciate your support. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #154

https://pelosi.house.gov/ or (202) 225-4965 George II Sep 2019 #50

On her official Congressional page, her local numbers yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #77

It's been a must since winning the house in 2018... Joe941 Sep 2019 #63

You reach her through your representative WhiteTara Sep 2019 #64

Can't reach mine. She is under the weight of national controversy and unavailable mysteryowl Sep 2019 #69

write letters to the editor. WhiteTara Sep 2019 #87

Actually, it does matter. You want her to think she has no backing in her home district? Hekate Sep 2019 #91

+1,000,000 StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #92

Some days I swear I wonder ... Regardless, thanks for your comment. Hekate Sep 2019 #94

I will vote no matter what. cwydro Sep 2019 #78

Yes, "vote blue no matter who" mysteryowl Sep 2019 #114

At this point it almost doesn't matter. If he's impeached, the Senate will end it. If, by some Vinca Sep 2019 #95

The House evertonfc Sep 2019 #96

anyone who isn't going to vote becsuse there was no impeachment is a really fucked up JI7 Sep 2019 #103

Calling demoralized Dems "fucked up persons" isn't going to motivate them to vote. nt SunSeeker Sep 2019 #104

so kicking out kids with medical problems that could die JI7 Sep 2019 #105

So kicking out kids to their death isn't enough to impeach? SunSeeker Sep 2019 #107

the number 1 goal is to remove him. i can see people making any excuses not to vote to help trump JI7 Sep 2019 #108

If not impeaching is enough to "demoralize" someone into not voting to remove StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #115

Then wouldn't the same thing be true if there is an impeachment? standingtall Sep 2019 #128

no, because the most important thing is removal JI7 Sep 2019 #132

The most important thing is he is held accountable standingtall Sep 2019 #133

no, YOU are saying that. i recognize majority of white voters WANT someone JI7 Sep 2019 #135

What about the people who don't support him that dont show up to vote? standingtall Sep 2019 #137

if they don't vote for someone else they DO support him JI7 Sep 2019 #138

Not voting for the only person in a position to beat him IS voting for him StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #140

Same thing was true in 2016 too standingtall Sep 2019 #144

My bet is that she comes back Bettie Sep 2019 #123

And when she doesn't say that and lets the impeachment investigation continue StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #131

It would require an enormous amount of time and energy on her part. jalan48 Sep 2019 #129

Kicked and Recommended Doug.Goodall Sep 2019 #134

mysteryowl: go get some Indivisible! ASAP! calimary Sep 2019 #141

Great suggestion, thank you! mysteryowl Sep 2019 #150

I believe that Speaker Pelosi donco Sep 2019 #143

It would then be seen as a total political stunt. former9thward Sep 2019 #147

Pelosi is doing fine. If you want to know delisen Sep 2019 #145

She would need to correctly remember history. SteveDallas Sep 2019 #152

If only the Speaker of the House were as knowledgeable about congressional history, procedure and StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #156

Sadly she isn't. SteveDallas Sep 2019 #158

Lol. Ok. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #159

They should. SteveDallas Sep 2019 #166

Not surprising you won't support your allegation w/ objective evidence. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #169

Thank you SteveDallas mysteryowl Sep 2019 #163

You know more than her???? nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #157

*shakes fist at sky* NANCY!!!!!!!!!! betsuni Sep 2019 #168

You are displaying your immaturity. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #170

That's all some have to offer melman Sep 2019 #171

.... betsuni Sep 2019 #172

Can't you tell by all the emojis that this is hilarious stuff? egduj Sep 2019 #201

How does impeachment 'stop' him from doing anything? ehrnst Sep 2019 #173

What kind of person wouldn't vote for the Democratic nominee because articles of impeachment aren't still_one Sep 2019 #176

Oh, good grief! Enough already! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #200