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gvstn

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10. I agree with the right to defend oneself using any means available when under attack.

Reply to apples and oranges (Original post)

Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:10 PM

Jan 2012

If there were actively coming at her, she had the right to shoot them to protect herself. A woman with a baby and 20 minutes on 911 to build anxiety it is understandable.

That said, she seems awfully nonchalant about the whole thing. I'd be a bit more upset if I killed someone.

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What do you think about the woman who shot/killed intruder with 911's permission? [View all] apples and oranges Jan 2012 OP

i hope if someone is coming at me with a knife, i too can shoot to kill. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #1

I think she did an awesome job Autumn Jan 2012 #2

and she deserves a medal to boot CatWoman Jan 2012 #18

My thought exactly. That was one brave girl. RebelOne Jan 2012 #60

She needs support Scairp Jan 2012 #85

She had no choice imho. Little Star Jan 2012 #3

I think she did the right thing. William769 Jan 2012 #4

Perhaps someone should interview her? Zalatix Jan 2012 #5

she looks terrible, sad, drained and a child. I feel terrible for her. roguevalley Jan 2012 #29

She is very courageous in my opinion. iscooterliberally Jan 2012 #6

Me too...and they said for 20 minutes those thugs went from door to door trying to break in. raccoon Jan 2012 #17

And where were the police for 20 minutes? <eom> catrose Jan 2012 #24

Probably using their SWAT toys to do a marijuana bust. They have priorities you know. n/t iscooterliberally Jan 2012 #42

She lives in a rural area. Swede Jan 2012 #44

Ah, the libertarian part of the state. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #67

Rural != Libertarian X_Digger Jan 2012 #71

If libertarians get their way.... MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #88

I am in DeFazio's district and our rural areas are far from law enforcement, our resouces Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #91

I agree. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #106

A very good question Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #75

Yep! n/t FourScore Jan 2012 #80

Good for her! is what I think about it n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #7

I feel your title is misleading Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #8

Exactly. pamela Jan 2012 #27

I agree. The dispatcher has no authority to grant 'permission' what they did was Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #92

With the details I have, she did the right thing itsrobert Jan 2012 #9

Mine would too, and I have no doubt they would be shot or knifed. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #37

Her dogs were poisoned earlier. X_Digger Jan 2012 #70

I agree with the right to defend oneself using any means available when under attack. gvstn Jan 2012 #10

Well, to be fair, she is going through a lot, apparently deutsey Jan 2012 #13

The minute they attempted forceful entry into the house she had the right to use deadly force. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #39

Me too. I wouldn't blame her at all if she had. nt raccoon Jan 2012 #99

Good for her. I would've done the same thing n/t OhioChick Jan 2012 #11

appears to be justifiable homocide. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #12

Sounds more like self-defense to me. Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #45

Legally, I understand it to be basically the same thing Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #51

Good for her! They ought to give her a medal. Ganja Ninja Jan 2012 #14

LOL CatWoman Jan 2012 #19

Seems fine to me RZM Jan 2012 #15

Of course you are within your rights. Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #76

I scared off an intruder once EFerrari Jan 2012 #16

This is why I support limited gun rights. RandySF Jan 2012 #20

Classic self-defense MFrohike Jan 2012 #21

I'd say it is an occupational hazard that the intruder should have considered WI_DEM Jan 2012 #22

Subject line is misleading. The 911 operator specifically said she could NOT give permission. slackmaster Jan 2012 #23

Ooops! apples and oranges Jan 2012 #28

Sort of a large ooops really. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #95

I would do anything to defend my family bigwillq Jan 2012 #25

She did what she had to do to protect herself and her child. Liberal In Texas Jan 2012 #26

Having lost a family member due to another, violent family member I agree with you. CTyankee Jan 2012 #40

more guns are used on their owners and families than intruders. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #56

I think it's great she and her baby are still alive and well.. MicaelS Jan 2012 #30

I think she has seen enough terror in her life. LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #31

I think being only 18 probably helped! That, and a strong sense of protecting herself and her child. CTyankee Jan 2012 #46

I'd say let it be a warning to people who like to break into other people's houses. ixion Jan 2012 #32

What's with her German Shepherd? He growled, but didn't defend? mainer Jan 2012 #33

Just because GSDs are regarded as being good guard dogs, it doesn't mean that all of them are. Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #52

she seemed very sad about it LanternWaste Jan 2012 #34

Taking a human life is an awesome act... MicaelS Jan 2012 #35

KILL! KILL! KILL! Iggo Jan 2012 #36

Her choice was quite possibly Kill or be Killed. (n/t) spin Jan 2012 #58

I agree. Iggo Jan 2012 #81

That's a great song, and The Groovy Guru (Larry Storch) was one of the best villains EVAR! slackmaster Jan 2012 #64

What should she have done? nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #73

Just what she did. Iggo Jan 2012 #82

Mothers protect their babies get the red out Jan 2012 #38

Poor thing. I wish her and her baby well. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #41

I feel very sorry for her. ieoeja Jan 2012 #43

And to top it off, the second guy, who's been arrested on first-degree murder charges, is now free KatyaR Jan 2012 #69

On the contrary, I suspect Mr. Stewart will stay as far away from that woman as he can. n/t Laelth Jan 2012 #90

I think she would have done it with or without permission anyway n/t Sheepshank Jan 2012 #47

Well her choices were limited and her child's life was at stake... spin Jan 2012 #59

Don't go in to other peoples' homes without their permission. LeftinOH Jan 2012 #48

I heard on CNN that she waited 15 minutes for the police to arrive. RandySF Jan 2012 #49

If you live in a rural area you can't expect the cops to show up in five minutes. spin Jan 2012 #61

If the San Diego PD ever got to my suburban house in less than 20 minutes, I'd be shocked slackmaster Jan 2012 #65

She should be reimbursed for the cost of the ammo Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #50

Good for her... one_voice Jan 2012 #53

The intruder deserved to be shot...He presented and clear danger to her & her family. Ecumenist Jan 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #55

permission plcdude Jan 2012 #57

That she may have thought she needed permission Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #94

"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away." n/t moriah Jan 2012 #62

justified frylock Jan 2012 #63

Echoing what others have said ChazII Jan 2012 #66

* ronnie624 Jan 2012 #68

I think she behaved exactly as she should have The Genealogist Jan 2012 #72

The guy who got shot is the only one not supporting her maximusveritas Jan 2012 #74

She was doing the only thing she could. Swede Jan 2012 #77

She wasn't "given" permission. The 911 operator was very specific about that. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #78

I think she acted reasonably to defend herself and her baby from grave harm. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #79

Why did she even ASK for permission?> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #83

She did the right thing. Lil Missy Jan 2012 #84

No question she did the right thing. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #86

I think there needs to be a non lethal Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #87

The use of force was justified. quaker bill Jan 2012 #89

Means never miss to kill the first shot. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #93

Makes no difference what the 911 operator told her distantearlywarning Jan 2012 #96

You do what you have to do pipi_k Jan 2012 #97

She did what she had to guitar man Jan 2012 #98

Sadly she had to shoot...and she will never be the same. great white snark Jan 2012 #100

Aim center of mass. Period. If you bought a gun to "scare", then go get your money back. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #101

Someone told me for defense, get a shotgun and get two kinds of shells Taverner Jan 2012 #105

she didn't have a choice...the guy kicked in her door, and he had a knife and an partner in crime noiretextatique Jan 2012 #102

Castle defense, right? Taverner Jan 2012 #103

Fine. But that doesn't take away from the 20,000+ people killed Zoeisright Jan 2012 #104

The woman who defended herself obviously DID have a security system slackmaster Jan 2012 #107

Good for her! flvegan Jan 2012 #108

She was 15, when they started living together her husband was 58... HipChick Jan 2012 #109