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Eyeball_Kid

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88. It's crazy to presume familiarity and knowledge of complete strangers with an exposed weapon.

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:53 AM

Sep 2019

I know NOTHING about strangers. That's why they're STRANGERS! If one is exposing a deadly weapon, I'm out of there. Now. We assume that there are norms and standards for civil behavior. Exposing a deadly weapon for no apparent reason is not a norm and standard. It's a sign of a willingness to frighten the bejesus out of people. And THAT'S not normal. I don't care if the only danger is that the carrier blows h/h knees to bits by forgetting to apply the safety to a sidearm and have the weapon go off. That danger is enough to get me away as quickly as possible. YOU might feel comfortable with open carry. Good for you. You have a rationale that, IMO, doesn't apply to people you don't know who have a deadly weapon in a public setting. You have no idea what they're thinking or what they will do with the power that they have in their very immediate possession.

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What do you do when you see someone carring a fiearm in a store? [View all] skip fox Sep 2019 OP

I absolutely do so... The problem is concealed weapons. I don't care if they are carrying legally hlthe2b Sep 2019 #1

I care DownriverDem Sep 2019 #26

You sound more like me, so why do you care if legally carrying or not? I see it, I leave AND hlthe2b Sep 2019 #33

I agree with you. MontanaMama Sep 2019 #47

I too come from a family of responsible hunters (mainly birds, occas. deer). NEVER would they EVER hlthe2b Sep 2019 #70

My Dad didn't hunt but my Mom's family did...and just pointing a stick pretend gun at someone got Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #106

YES! That's the important thing to do! Grins Sep 2019 #123

In Texas, if you don't want firearms in your place of business yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #181

They shouldn't be "asking" SoCalNative Sep 2019 #131

Agreed. no_hypocrisy Sep 2019 #2

And making eye contact Bettie Sep 2019 #8

So far,I have not seen one, but that is exactly what I would do. True Blue American Sep 2019 #3

We don't have open carry yet, but that's my plan. Arkansas Granny Sep 2019 #4

Granny. I hate to break it to you but TomSlick Sep 2019 #154

I didn't realize that. She's a real piece of work, isn't she? Arkansas Granny Sep 2019 #159

You are more charitable than I. TomSlick Sep 2019 #160

I work in 2 places that allow open carry. CottonBear Sep 2019 #5

I think the whole point is to scare the bejaysus out of people. "Look at meeeee. I can squash you... Hekate Sep 2019 #144

I've never seen anyone doing this. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #6

You're not excitable, but the Rambo wannabe probably is. sarge43 Sep 2019 #10

Usually they walk in shooting. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #121

I don't either. sarge43 Sep 2019 #126

I don't think it makes you a wimp. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #127

Well, you should sarge43 Sep 2019 #130

I think maybe one other reason.. cannabis_flower Sep 2019 #148

There is that sarge43 Sep 2019 #152

It doesn't make the dick look bigger, soldierant Sep 2019 #155

Oh, that is a great rejoinder. 3catwoman3 Sep 2019 #177

Not original to me, soldierant Sep 2019 #190

That's a keeper. n/t sarge43 Sep 2019 #183

Well that's true cannabis_flower Sep 2019 #184

Do we know that for sure? That they weren't browsing about beforehand? Arazi Sep 2019 #191

I've never seen it either and I live in a really red / conservative area Amishman Sep 2019 #16

We live in blood red SW PA... Freedomofspeech Sep 2019 #21

The simple fact that Americans find the prevalence of guns disturbing... DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #43

And by using "low brow" I mean dumb fucking ass. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #45

I totally agree. Freedomofspeech Sep 2019 #108

Yes. Fear. I can't go to any public places these days without looking around. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #192

I Didn't Even Know RobinA Sep 2019 #113

Already seeing Trump 2020 flags... Freedomofspeech Sep 2019 #114

I will leave Moral Compass Sep 2019 #7

I think open carry is illegal in Texas fescuerescue Sep 2019 #173

I would abandon my cart and walk right out. mwb970 Sep 2019 #9

Or SoCalNative Sep 2019 #132

i would leave... samnsara Sep 2019 #11

great idea ... this should go nationwide Botany Sep 2019 #12

Hey you might be on to something... MontanaMama Sep 2019 #53

I have hunted and owned A FEW guns for years and I have run into some of the open carry Billy ... Botany Sep 2019 #81

You're 100% correct about billy bob gun nuts. MontanaMama Sep 2019 #92

My long gone maternal grandfather had a fruit orchard and ran some sheep outside of ... Botany Sep 2019 #96

If a manager is around, I'd tell him/her why I'm leaving. Liberal In Texas Sep 2019 #13

+1. Let them know. dalton99a Sep 2019 #31

Or conduct business as normal... DaDeacon Sep 2019 #14

You absolutely have a right snowybirdie Sep 2019 #29

Sorry, I would have no idea who you are if I saw you in a store. Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2019 #30

As dangerous as a large dog at a park JGug1 Sep 2019 #32

Agreed! StarryNite Sep 2019 #50

+1, if the "good guys" can't stop mass killers in Texas then no state can IMHO. Lived there uponit7771 Sep 2019 #71

Just to make you aware... DaDeacon Sep 2019 #189

Mass shooters have to open carry to be mass shooters, I don't know the difference between bubba uponit7771 Sep 2019 #69

It's crazy to presume familiarity and knowledge of complete strangers with an exposed weapon. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2019 #88

depends on the kind of "open carry." cab67 Sep 2019 #103

In AZ the only guys I have seen with holsters on their waist are in their 20s grantcart Sep 2019 #134

As for age, I know an 80 yr old who can out shoot anyone else i know. EASILY. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #167

I care to differ. paleotn Sep 2019 #147

Also, there are some people who have a reason to carry even though they arent in a uniform. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #166

My personal choice is to quietly leave. n/t. Mister Ed Sep 2019 #15

i give em the stink eye. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #17

I already do. ColesCountyDem Sep 2019 #18

Agree. No way to know motive or temperament of an armed person. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #19

The only time I've seen someone with a gun in a store was once when an armed robbery Tanuki Sep 2019 #20

Know your escapes and exits bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #22

I would exit stage left leaving my thawing ice cream behind in the cart. appleannie1 Sep 2019 #23

I'm going to make up some wallet sized cards to carry for exactly that reason Meadowoak Sep 2019 #129

A lesson I learned.... ewagner Sep 2019 #24

I would think a home security system SHRED Sep 2019 #40

German Shepherds are, too. And they keep you warm in the winter! n/t ms liberty Sep 2019 #93

Flocks of geese are notoriously noisy when disturbed at night... Hekate Sep 2019 #146

So what is wrong with "check your gun before coming into town" of TV fame. usaf-vet Sep 2019 #60

Thanks for the link. Good read. yonder Sep 2019 #115

You are welcome fellow DUer. usaf-vet Sep 2019 #117

Perfect illustration of why i think "open carry" is for suckers oldsoftie Sep 2019 #168

Leave is absolutely the right course. Run, don't walk. lastlib Sep 2019 #25

Run? Then YOU look like you've done something wrong! oldsoftie Sep 2019 #169

Remind myself.... phandancer917 Sep 2019 #27

I have never seen it in SE Pennsylvania but Bromwell Sep 2019 #28

I wish this was a practical solution. cab67 Sep 2019 #34

Shop. They aren't the threat. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #35

Dylan Roof sat in on the Charleston church bible study for an hour before he started shooting Arazi Sep 2019 #64

I don't, but thats true of every single person. I don't live in fear. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #68

What about before? The mass shooter has to open carry to be a mass shooter. Open carry is stupid uponit7771 Sep 2019 #66

No, they could conceal with a jacket or coat. Even a backpack. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #72

... then they have to expose the gun to use it at that point they are open carry ... period. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #73

Ok, but you do everyday. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #75

Calculated mature ones ... of course uponit7771 Sep 2019 #77

I'm embarrassed for them, then, I bite my tongue. Magoo48 Sep 2019 #36

So how do you tell a terrorist from a legal gun owner? Joe Nation Sep 2019 #37

MAGA hat? TheBlackAdder Sep 2019 #39

+1, just like the kid in Missouri !! He was legally open carry and they arrested him still. Open... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #76

I haven't seen it, but I would leave immediately, and then I would call and write to tell the store tblue37 Sep 2019 #38

I would leave and fast ebbie15644 Sep 2019 #41

Thank God I live in one of those coastal elite states. Initech Sep 2019 #42

I avoid living in hillbilly states. Codeine Sep 2019 #44

There are only 4 states which don't allow open carry. former9thward Sep 2019 #51

I'm not referring to laws. Codeine Sep 2019 #86

States vary greatly depending where you might be in them. Generalizations suck. cwydro Sep 2019 #102

Nothing. former9thward Sep 2019 #46

Until they don't ... just sayin' (nt) mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #54

Aren't the people who charge in shooting open carrying too? Jus sayin, kinda hard to do the kill uponit7771 Sep 2019 #59

Only seen open carry once sarisataka Sep 2019 #48

GTFO. n/t. mwooldri Sep 2019 #49

Yup. Leave. Only once have I seen a gun toter, and I immediately left. Guilded Lilly Sep 2019 #52

Assess the threat, determine the risk, and act accordingly. bluedigger Sep 2019 #55

City Market in Cortez pamela Sep 2019 #180

I would take in the whole picture. Big difference between a normally dressed older dude mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #56

I would leave.....I have nver seen anyone open carry. AJT Sep 2019 #57

Well, to be afraid and uncomfortable The Genealogist Sep 2019 #58

I don't like to see any guns extvbroadcaster Sep 2019 #61

+1, keyword you used is "...stop..." not shoot the mass killer after they've killed 30 people alread uponit7771 Sep 2019 #65

Look at Florida?? GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #116

Actually, they are used quite often in self defense. Google it. I agree about the Rambo fantasies! oldsoftie Sep 2019 #170

Before you leave... dawnie51 Sep 2019 #62

TAKE NO CHANCES CALL THE POLICE !!! The terrorist are open carry too and it's hard to tell who's who uponit7771 Sep 2019 #63

The plural of terrorist is terrorists. Codeine Sep 2019 #138

I have never seen it. Golden Raisin Sep 2019 #67

nothing, I am in rural Arizona Kali Sep 2019 #74

Yaw feel safe around gumpers I don't, anyone who needs a mass kill device for protection isn't ... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #78

I try not to live in fear. Kali Sep 2019 #118

I have left a store and a restaurant/bar here in Oklahoma. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #79

I walk out. Simple. n/t phylny Sep 2019 #80

See someone open carrying in a store? Eyeball_Kid Sep 2019 #82

Na na na na hey hey struggle4progress Sep 2019 #83

Does concealed carry bother you as much? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #84

Takes me back to when people were smoking in grocery stores Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #85

I've seen videos of these fucking assholes walking down the street with... LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #87

Yes. They are trolling for people like you and me. skip fox Sep 2019 #120

First off, you have no way of knowing if a person PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #89

I would absolutely immediately abandon my cart and leave. lark Sep 2019 #90

I live in Wyoming RichardRay Sep 2019 #91

I grew up there. Codeine Sep 2019 #137

I never see this in CT. If I ever did, not only would I leave, I would alert a store employee on my CTyankee Sep 2019 #94

In CT, that person may be legally carrying with a lawful permit. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #153

Dunno but boy I sure feel safer now that I know I could be surrounded by "good guys with a gun" CTyankee Sep 2019 #179

I generally feel more comfortable around people who are legally qualified to carry. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #185

The accessibility of guns is a big issue for me. Hence, my feeling is that my chances of being shot CTyankee Sep 2019 #186

I suppose, in fairness to your reaction... AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #187

That is correct. In my own family's experience, there were what I call the 3 A's involved: CTyankee Sep 2019 #188

Not in Texas scarytomcat Sep 2019 #95

Leave. Even the concealed carry in WI AllyCat Sep 2019 #97

now that walmart and kroger have this new policy dweller Sep 2019 #98

I've never seen anyone open carrying here in the Chicago suburbs. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #99

Because open carry SoCalNative Sep 2019 #145

I haven't had to yet, but I will leave Greybnk48 Sep 2019 #100

Well, all things being equal, grumpyduck Sep 2019 #101

Great idea. Sogo Sep 2019 #104

Leave the store...and tell someone on the way out why...then call the cops...they are better Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #105

A gun humping D bag rownesheck Sep 2019 #107

I live in SoCal, we don't do this nonsense here n/t PasadenaTrudy Sep 2019 #109

Open carry is common here in NC MyMission Sep 2019 #110

I would treat it as a threat. So I would leave immediately, go to my car and call the police. Cousin Dupree Sep 2019 #111

I'm 67 and I don't believe I've ever seen anyone other than a cop carrying a handgun. elocs Sep 2019 #112

I would get out fast. nt leftyladyfrommo Sep 2019 #119

I keep on shopping Falcata Sep 2019 #122

I'm sorry. I don't want to wait for the benefit of a doubt. I'm gone. skip fox Sep 2019 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Sep 2019 #125

Be suspicious if he does not get hold of a shopping cart at140 Sep 2019 #128

call the cops samir.g Sep 2019 #133

Point at them and laugh hysterically. Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #135

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone did that? Codeine Sep 2019 #140

what would happen if a person openly carried a firearm into a trump rally? throwthe_shoe Sep 2019 #136

They wouldn't get anywhere near the place without being stopped by the Secret Service. Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #143

I have never seen it and hopefully won't... BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #139

I have not had this experience, but my plan is solid: park the cart & exit with all deliberate speed Hekate Sep 2019 #141

Take a picture post it go viral DIVINEprividence Sep 2019 #142

I keep an eye on him and get out who knows he may doc03 Sep 2019 #149

History Smackdown2019 Sep 2019 #150

Well shanti Sep 2019 #151

so far it's only happened once barbtries Sep 2019 #156

I would do this, and... MarianJack Sep 2019 #157

It depends on the firearm. xmas74 Sep 2019 #158

Continue shopping MartinLane Sep 2019 #161

I live in Hawaii proud patriot Sep 2019 #162

I continue to do whatever i was doing. Open carry is for suckers anyway. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #163

I see Kroger (King Sooper) has asked its customers not to carry a gun locks Sep 2019 #164

My state does not have open carry. How many states do now ??some one posted only 4 do not lunasun Sep 2019 #165

According to the Giffords Law Center sarisataka Sep 2019 #172

Thanks I guess I live in a bubble I had no idea it was the majority of states. Only some states lunasun Sep 2019 #174

I count 14 states that require a permit sarisataka Sep 2019 #175

I check them out. Then keep shopping fescuerescue Sep 2019 #171

I've never seen that, since my state's open carry law The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #176

I live in GA where it's legal. It's very common now. I don't think too much about it, but YOHABLO Sep 2019 #178

That's exactly what I do and I let management know on my way out. Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #182

While I live in a pro-gun part of Mi., I have yet to see anyone do such a thing (open carry). Kaleva Sep 2019 #193