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eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
29. broke doctors
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jan 2012

I've worked in health care for almost 30 years. I've worked in high volume, high quality facilities to small rural hospitals with low volume. I haven't found that doctors are "hurting". Yes, I've seen a few struggle financially, for different reasons. I don't blame the amount of debt they graduate with, the Medicare reimbursement cuts, nor the insurance industry. Failing physicians and practices existed before these issues were ever issues. Rural areas have long had trouble attracting doctors, as well as other professionals.
I'm not saying they are all rich and living the good life. However, most are. Most feel it is deserved given the amount of time and money they have spent on their education. Wouldn't the debt be relative to the income they will realize?
Idolizing doctors has taken a down turn in the last 25 years or so. No longer do health care co-workers and the general patient population take their advice blindly. Rather, they have been taught to question, to research, and to arm themselves with knowledge.
I well remember the scare of increasing medical malpractice insurance driving doctors to move to states where tort reform had already been enacted. This was floated about in order to coerce legislators to enact tort reform. Some even said they would be forced to give up their practices. I always wondered what they would do to make the type of income they enjoyed as physicians. Ha! Recent articles have pointed out that med mal insurance costs have gone down in the last four years in states with and without tort reform. I also wondered how the people who support tort reform would feel if their mother, brother, child, etc. were harmed by gross malpractice and their settlement after legal fees would not provide care for the harmed person for long. Not a fan of "Obamacare"? Then maybe your insurance company will find a reason to drop your injured family member from coverage, or you might lose your job due to providing care. Then what? Medicaid? Probably (thanks to the government).
Broke doctors, lack of access to care, long hours (really? compared to the nurse who is with the patient 8,12, 16 hrs at a stretch? or compared to a worker performing two jobs to make ends meet?), large student loans - these issues aren't new with healthcare reform nor changes in reimbursement. As for states with tort reform on the books...did it make a difference?
Sorry for the rambling. I lost my blind respect for whole professions years ago. Bankers, doctors, lawyers. Sounds negative, but to me realistic. There are some good doctors out there; money is secondary to patient care, but I think I'll save my sympathy for the truly hurting.

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This didn't happen when health insurance was not-for-profit. arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #1
I feel really bad for these doctors. I have a relative that is a dentist and last year she ended southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #3
"People don't realize how hard it is on the doctors." Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #11
People really just don't understand. My sister finally paid off her student loans and it southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #24
Happy I live in Canada riverbendviewgal Jan 2012 #2
You do have a good system and don't let anyone try to change your system. I have a feeling southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #4
This is one of the reasons not-for-profit Kaiser has become one of the employers of choice. Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #5
two of my doctors left private practices and moved to kaiser noiretextatique Jan 2012 #25
Kaiser provides a very good work environment for doctors. Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #34
agreed...thank goodness i live in california noiretextatique Jan 2012 #37
Valley Hospital in Ridgewood, NJ is going around buying private medical practices, no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #6
My husband was born there phylny Jan 2012 #39
This does not surprise me. Laelth Jan 2012 #7
I've lost 3 of my GPs because they could no longer afford to practice. librechik Jan 2012 #8
Nationalize the health/drug industry and pay them a reasonable salary. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #9
US doctors are by far the highest paid in the world. We have no more $$$ to give them. Romulox Jan 2012 #10
I wonder how much a medical education costs in those other countries. Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #15
Medical education is run like a guild in this country. The purpose is to limit new doctors. Romulox Jan 2012 #21
yip Johonny Jan 2012 #40
I was married to a emilyg Jan 2012 #16
By that logic, the doctors in the OP "deserve" to go out of business? Romulox Jan 2012 #20
A lot of reasons for that treestar Jan 2012 #12
single payer. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #13
The ones that are not efficient are going broke taught_me_patience Jan 2012 #14
doctors, like their patients, are simply fodder for corporate profit squeezing.... mike_c Jan 2012 #17
Clearly health care is too cheap.. n/t Fumesucker Jan 2012 #18
Of course, the largest single problem is Medicare not paying... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #19
With those programs set to decrease their pay outs, things will get even tighter. Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #22
This is what happens when people pay huge sums for medical "insurance" kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #23
Yup. Shadowflash Jan 2012 #38
I love my doctor Marrah_G Jan 2012 #26
The silver lining to this is that we are seeing more and more doctors cbayer Jan 2012 #27
My dad was a doctor, and was barely breaking even his last few years Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #28
broke doctors eyeofnewt Jan 2012 #29
In my rural area KT2000 Jan 2012 #30
hospitalists eyeofnewt Jan 2012 #31
Yes - my sister's dr. KT2000 Jan 2012 #36
I have heard this shit for as long as I can remember AngryAmish Jan 2012 #32
My doctor sold her practice and retired last year auburngrad82 Jan 2012 #33
They're next up on the food chain. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #35
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