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ehrnst

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Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:51 AM Sep 2019

Five Reasons Why Republicans Won't Abandon Trump Like They Ditched Nixon [View all]

Written about an anticipation of GOP reaction to the release of the Mueller report and possible obstruction charges, reasons 2-5 are relevant to predicting the reactions of Republicans to allegations raised in an impeachment investigation - especially for anyone who believes that allegations revealed in a Democrat-led impeachment could possibly turn many who still support Trump after all this time against him, as Republicans did Nixon.

2. Nixon was a lame-duck president; Trump’s definitely not. When the buzzards began circling Richard Nixon’s presidency, he was well into his second term, and faced a Democratic-controlled Congress that was not about to let him off the hook for any Watergate-related revelations. By the time definitive evidence of obstruction of justice emerged, the House was already considering articles of impeachment, and Democrats held 56 Senate seats. Trump is already running for reelection in what bids fair to become a savagely polarized 2020 campaign, and his party controls the Senate and thus can make (and almost certainly already has made) his removal from office via the impeachment process all but impossible. To the extent that Trump’s entire presidency is the product of some of the most intense partisanship in living memory, and his entire personality is based on his identity as a “winner,” the odds of him ever resigning in the face of attacks from Democrats seem very low. And Republicans know that.

3. Trump is a lot more popular among today’s Republicans than Nixon was among yesterday’s. People remember that Richard Nixon was reelected in 1972 by a huge landslide, but was forced to resign less than two years later. But it’s less clearly remembered that in between the two events his popularity steadily dropped — among Republicans as well as Democrats and independents. .....the resignation of his vice-president, Spiro Agnew, after being caught accepting bribes; growing public hostility to delays in ending the Vietnam War; and the beginning of a recession that interrupted a long period of economic growth. By the time Nixon was forced to resign, his approval rating overall was a terrible 24 percent, and just 50 percent among Republicans. Trumps has never fallen below 79% among Republicans, and is currently at 88%.

4. The Republican Party is more monochromatic ideologically than it was during Watergate. Many conservative Republicans defended Nixon long after the public had soured on him. That gave him some Republican support, but in those days of a strong moderate and even liberal wing of the GOP, it wasn’t enough to save him.

5. Trump’s whole approach to politics incentivizes partisan combat, not fact-based investigations. Whether or not Donald Trump is a symptom of partisan and ideological polarization on the right, or its cause (he’s almost certainly both), we have long passed the point at which Republicans are particularly concerned about whether his words are truthful or his behavior is lawful. If we’ve all become somewhat desensitized to presidential lying, it’s particularly true of fellow partisans whose daily bread is Fox & Friends, and who glory in how crazy his lies drive journalists and Democrats. Those who can remain calm when their president makes up a myth of “millions of illegal votes” for his opponent in 2016 because he can’t accept the fact that he lost the popular vote, and routinely threatens his enemies with extra-constitutional vengeance, are not suddenly going to dump him just because Robert Mueller concludes he probably had malign motives for firing James Comey.


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/gop-abandon-trump-like-nixon.html
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It's a cult. It's not a political party. People don't easily leave cults. SharonAnn Sep 2019 #1
This!! Those that didn't drink the koolaid are choosing to retire. Unfortunately I think we will see Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #3
Yep - impeachment won't deprogram them or snap them out of it any more than ehrnst Sep 2019 #6
+1, Nixon bottom was 24% Red Don's bottom is 35% - ish because they now have uponit7771 Sep 2019 #8
The years of hate broadcasting is the most significant factor the formation of todays Republican. olegramps Sep 2019 #22
+ 1, a cult. iluvtennis Sep 2019 #23
Interesting points. We shall see how it goes. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #2
Point #4 is huge apnu Sep 2019 #4
Never trust a never-Trumper... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #5
+1, they don't like the ... WAY ... Red Don is portraying what they agree with .. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #7
At best, they damage traitortrump empedocles Sep 2019 #9
Oh I don't trust them. apnu Sep 2019 #11
6. Trump is doing what many wanted him to do, Nixon didn't bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #10
I'll take exception to some of these observations: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #12
7. Because today's Republican Party is led by PABs. eShirl Sep 2019 #13
#1 Should be: "Fox News and RW Talk Radio" farmbo Sep 2019 #14
And number two should be "Evangelical Churches" Mariana Sep 2019 #15
I do not believe that Jarqui Sep 2019 #16
#8, #9 Because the gop is seriously, deeply compromised by two sources. Reason 8: foreign wiggs Sep 2019 #17
Partisan combat, a good descriptor. Fits like a glove to 'owning the libs'. machoneman Sep 2019 #18
One big reason, they have the Federal courts packed with tRumpsters. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #19
K&R! mcar Sep 2019 #20
(R)s have no moral compass. lpbk2713 Sep 2019 #21
source url CloudWatcher Sep 2019 #24
Thank you - left that out. I've added it to the OP. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #28
They threw every one of the Raygun "principles" under the bus BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #25
But main number one reason is... Cryptoad Sep 2019 #26
Biggest REason: Moscow Mitch and others are in the corruption and Russian rubles up to their Amaryllis Sep 2019 #27
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