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StarfishSaver

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20. Once again, the inquiry began in June.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:38 PM
Sep 2019
Y'all do realize what happened today, right? And can we give Speaker Pelosi some props for it?

Nadler and the other Judiciary Committee Members made clear that they have opened an impeachment inquiry that could lead to Articles of Impeachment against Trump.

And this has been managed brilliantly.

As many have pointed out, if a vote were taken today on the House floor on whether to open an impeachment inquiry, it would fail and fail badly. Pelosi and Nadler have very skillfully and expertly worked around that possibility. And this didn't just start today.

A month and a half ago, Nadler announced a series of hearings he promised would pursue “targeted legislative, oversight and constitutional remedies designed to respond to these matters.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-03/nadler-plans-mueller-report-hearings-starting-with-john-dean

In his announcement, Nadler very specifically stated that the hearings wouldn't be limited to legislative and oversight purposes, but also are targeted toward "constitutional remedies." The only constitutional remedy available to the House to respond to the behavior described in the Mueller Report is impeachment.

This language was very intentional. Among other things, it positioned the Committee to request grand jury materials under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e)'s provision that allows a court to release grand jury materials in connection with a proceeding "preliminarily to" an impeachment inquiry.

Today, the Committee announced not only that it is indeed conducting an impeachment inquiry, Nadler and the others said that this inquiry didn't start today, but has been going on for some time - but this is the first time they have come out and said it.

So we are now exactly where many people have been demanding we be. The House is conducting a full-blown impeachment inquiry. They are about to get a court order compelling Don McGahn to testify or face jail and fines. They are in court seeking the grand jury materials.

And they pulled this off without a House vote that would have gone down in defeat. This was a brilliant move by Pelosi to move the inquiry forward while protecting the more vulnerable and conservative members of her caucus from having to vote for one.

Nicely done, Madame Speaker and Chairman Nadler.

Make no mistake about it. Impeachment is in play, y'all.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212320474

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ITTMF malaise Sep 2019 #1
Absolutely, K&R. Quit F'ing around the edges ... do it!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #3
Okay, what is ittmf? oregonjen Sep 2019 #6
Impeach the treasonous mfer. panader0 Sep 2019 #12
Good to see you malaise Sep 2019 #21
Aw thanks. I'm here most every day, mostly reading. panader0 Sep 2019 #23
Thanks! oregonjen Sep 2019 #22
Barr fighting for t-rump! Iliyah Sep 2019 #2
Of course they have StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #4
Laughable FBaggins Sep 2019 #16
Once again, the inquiry began in June. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #20
Not when you decide it was true FBaggins Sep 2019 #25
You ask an awful lot of question for someone who seems to think they're an expert on this StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #27
And you dodge a lot of them FBaggins Sep 2019 #30
Even the DoJ now with Barr wants to bring the US down. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #5
Barr wants to command the US Sturmabteilung... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #18
Would not be surprised at all!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #32
As there are no 'laws' and/or 'regulations' about what one IS, elleng Sep 2019 #7
Exactly StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #31
You keep spinning it as Trump's lawyers FBaggins Sep 2019 #34
Random Members don't have power to decide if an impeachment investigation is occurring. Nadler does StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #35
So the f**k what, it is or isn't they can still holding hearings...wtf is the point. Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #8
Their supeona power is hightened with Impeachment Inquiry The empressof all Sep 2019 #10
yes Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #11
Doesn't make much difference when Trump is ignoring them all... Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #9
I think the answer may be simple... targetpractice Sep 2019 #13
I don't think she's afraid the evidence isn't compelling Poiuyt Sep 2019 #40
Impeachment DOESN'T mean Congress gets to be first in line" and doesn't make everything else the SC StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #14
That's contradictory FBaggins Sep 2019 #19
If you had a better understaning of how Congress worked, you would know that "majority votes" is not StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #26
How odd FBaggins Sep 2019 #28
How do you think SCOTUS will rule on this? Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #36
Could be part of the plan FBaggins Sep 2019 #17
The DOJ should just be referred to as Trump's attorneys world wide wally Sep 2019 #29
Do anything to obstruct justice Department of Justice. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #33
Nadler will respond shortly malaise Sep 2019 #37
oh damn Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #38
ROFL malaise Sep 2019 #39
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