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Goodheart

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30. "the regressivity of a sales tax can vary depending on its implementation"
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 02:49 PM
Sep 2019

Correct... to the point of not being regressive at all, and to the point of being far superior to an income tax system that is, itself, regressive by legislation and enforcement.

Are you suggesting a sales tax or a VAT as is commonly used in Europe? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #1
I like the Fair Tax idea, combined with Elizabeth Warren's "wealth tax" Goodheart Sep 2019 #2
Ideologues frequently propose sudden sweeping changes, promising struggle4progress Sep 2019 #3
Were Social Security and Medicare championed by "idealogues"? Goodheart Sep 2019 #4
No, but Medicare was first proposed in the '40s The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #5
Every nation with a national sales tax also has an income tax jmowreader Sep 2019 #6
You need to understand the mechanisms of the Fair Tax a little better. Lochloosa Sep 2019 #9
I know that...another reason to be against it jmowreader Sep 2019 #14
Huh? It would do the OPPOSITE of that, just as I posted. Goodheart Sep 2019 #19
The "Fair Tax" is actually a 30% sales tax. Mariana Sep 2019 #28
If food and clothing were exempt (except alcohol and luxury clothing) it could work n/t Blaukraut Sep 2019 #7
It certainly could. Goodheart Sep 2019 #8
entirely the wrong solution to the stated problems. unblock Sep 2019 #10
Sales taxes in general are regressive so legislators have to build in some protections for the less CTyankee Sep 2019 #13
UUnfortunately, the tax structure you described above disproportionately affects really poor people intrepidity Sep 2019 #53
I am cognizant of this as my husband is the (volunteer) chairman of New Haven's Homeless CTyankee Sep 2019 #58
Enforcement is 1) too complicated 2) too expensive 3) too difficult 4) impossible. Goodheart Sep 2019 #15
sure, given how the tax code has been redesigned to be exactly that. unblock Sep 2019 #21
No. It harms the poor. ananda Sep 2019 #11
Yes, a National Sales Tax or a VAT would be simple and there would be no evasion... Girard442 Sep 2019 #12
There are very few loopholes in a sales tax Goodheart Sep 2019 #17
because the rich have eaten away at the income tax code and haven't done as much to the sale tax. unblock Sep 2019 #23
There is NO "simple" income tax code, period. Goodheart Sep 2019 #26
it didn't used to be so complicated unblock Sep 2019 #29
Au contraire... it was ALWAYS complicated Goodheart Sep 2019 #31
these rules can all be simplified greatly. unblock Sep 2019 #35
Other countries have completely automated their income tax systems. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #40
If the sales tax rate is 30%, as the "Fair Tax" proposes Mariana Sep 2019 #43
You listed the loopholes in your OP muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Sep 2019 #16
Go back and read my post. Goodheart Sep 2019 #18
I don't mean this as an attack SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #20
Sales taxes are not regressive if they're not universally applied across all purchases. Goodheart Sep 2019 #22
a souffle is hard to cook properly, so let's just order a sh*tburger. unblock Sep 2019 #27
"the regressivity of a sales tax can vary depending on its implementation" Goodheart Sep 2019 #30
wrong. unblock Sep 2019 #32
Cement the income tax code with loopholes? Goodheart Sep 2019 #33
i said cement their victory, not cement the tax code. don't be obtuse. unblock Sep 2019 #37
Obviously, you haven't read or taken the time to understand my post. Goodheart Sep 2019 #46
how are equities taxed under a sales tax system? unblock Sep 2019 #51
Those sound like "Transaction" taxes intrepidity Sep 2019 #57
Your status quo notions are what's keeping wealth disparity growing. Goodheart Sep 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Sep 2019 #25
I agree in principle Disaffected Sep 2019 #34
A sales tax?....NEVER! A VAT tax?...maybe. paleotn Sep 2019 #36
"Sales taxes are not only the most regressive" Goodheart Sep 2019 #39
Fairness depends on how much of your income you spend. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #38
Too Ridiculous To Deserve A Cogent Response ProfessorGAC Sep 2019 #41
You're part of the reason, then, that wealth inequality keeps growing. Goodheart Sep 2019 #44
The problem with your OP SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #48
"you could not find a single credible economist to agree with your position." Goodheart Sep 2019 #50
My BA was in Economics SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #59
I suggest you look at a real example before going any further muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #49
Tax the rich's property holdings more. Mc Mike Sep 2019 #42
Part of the plan :) Goodheart Sep 2019 #47
You do a VAT on top of income tax. It pays for medicare for all. You do both. applegrove Sep 2019 #52
what about corporate taxes? Takket Sep 2019 #54
Probably will need BOTH to finance all the new social programs being proposed andym Sep 2019 #55
One thing to consider DFW Sep 2019 #56
Sounds like more "flat tax" claptrap... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #60
A VAT does not harm corporate accountants, lots of complication remains Cicada Sep 2019 #61
No thanks. Mosby Sep 2019 #62
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