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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:38 AM Sep 2019

There should be handcuffs. [View all]

Another morning has begun with a media review of all the Republicans who will be saying "Fuck you!" to the House, the Democratic party and several centuries of legal precedent.

"Subpoena" means---literally---"under penalty". If a subpoena is not quashed but is simply defied, there is supposed to be a penalty. A common way for a court to enforce their subpoena is to issue a "Rule to Show Cause". The person is given a short date and time at which he or she is to appear in court and explain why he or she should not be held in contempt of court. If no good cause is shown, the person may be found in contempt and fined or even held in custody until they comply with the subpoena.

If the person fails to appear when ordered, a warrant for their arrest is usually issued.

Those who fail to appear in response to the House subpoenas and those who refuse to answer questions even after appearing should be arrested---as publicly as possible.

People have begun to question whether our party has the strength to lead. Their concern is that if twerps like Lewandowski can flip us off in public and walk away smirking, how can we be expected to deal with true monsters like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un--- and Trump.

We ignore this concern at our peril.

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There should be handcuffs. [View all] Atticus Sep 2019 OP
Who enforces the defied subpoena? The DOJ Nictuku Sep 2019 #1
The DOJ is one of three possible "enforcers". The courts can also be used and this slow methodical Atticus Sep 2019 #4
The Judicial System bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #6
Inherent Contempt was last used in the 1930s, I believe NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #7
Probably because most of the time the DOJ has acted. Now the DOJ flips off the House. triron Sep 2019 #18
Sadly NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #19
I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't it be all hell breaking loose if Nadler just had rainy Sep 2019 #30
There may be intermediate steps bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #5
Hmmmmm.... ewagner Sep 2019 #15
EXACTLY !! kacekwl Sep 2019 #22
It's exactly what we need shanti Sep 2019 #36
Aren't the US Marshals under the DOJ? lastlib Sep 2019 #43
Yes....but.... ewagner Sep 2019 #51
Exactly X2!!! Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #47
Perhaps Barr's defiance would precipitate an immediate impeachment process lunatica Sep 2019 #40
ABSOLUTELY!!!! N/T ewagner Sep 2019 #52
Jurney v. MacCracken Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #14
Wow that's a broad clause, could mean financial restitution to taxpayers bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #41
Time to defund the Executive. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #2
Way over due...nt 2naSalit Sep 2019 #8
That's exactly the game plan - for putin and plutocrats. erronis Sep 2019 #9
we need to do this and more, we should not be working with the fascists on anything yaesu Sep 2019 #16
Agree 100% Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #48
How does that work? By what mechanism does Congress alone "defund the executive?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #26
They can't FBaggins Sep 2019 #33
Cut the funding for Air Force 1 out of the budget. Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #38
And how do you get the Senate and President to agree to the cut? FBaggins Sep 2019 #39
Of course it's not going to happen. Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #42
When we completely lose the rule law... We have lost America. world wide wally Sep 2019 #3
Why play by the rules? joshdawg Sep 2019 #10
That may be one of those questions... malthaussen Sep 2019 #32
Well, so much for Scarsdale Sep 2019 #11
So if congress doesn't make a referral to the DOJ ehrnst Sep 2019 #25
Lock them UP! Bayard Sep 2019 #12
We need to start arresting and incarcerating! Bonx Sep 2019 #31
Did lewandowski defy the subpoena today? leftieNanner Sep 2019 #13
Scheduled to start at 1pm eastern nt FBaggins Sep 2019 #35
and while the fascists get away with crippling our party we continue to work with them on yaesu Sep 2019 #17
Who would carry that out? The DOJ. Do you think that would happen quickly? ehrnst Sep 2019 #20
I don't care about Holder or anyone else. kacekwl Sep 2019 #23
Fines are quicker, and we know that under Barr, criminal charges will be dropped. ehrnst Sep 2019 #29
Agreed matt819 Sep 2019 #21
This is what the Dems should do brutus smith Sep 2019 #24
Yes, We ignore this concern at our peril. elleng Sep 2019 #27
False dillema. There is a middle ground between "ignoring" and issuing a warant for an arrest. ehrnst Sep 2019 #28
Throw him in jail! shanti Sep 2019 #34
Two aspects missing from this analysis FBaggins Sep 2019 #37
How many politicians can you name that have faced an actual legal penalty for lying? MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #44
Lock him up? I know we are all frustrated. But lock him up? Who and where? GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #45
Is Democratic leadership hesitant to act because they fear reprisal if the tables should turn? Mr. Ected Sep 2019 #46
Eric Holder defied GOP subpoena NCLefty Sep 2019 #49
According to the Rethugs there is a Deep State kyburbonkid Sep 2019 #50
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