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Bradical79

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48. At least partly true

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:22 PM

Sep 2019

I wouldn't say she is the main problem, but her messaging on impeachment has been a huge roadblock in trying to sway the public. The other part is our voting population.

You have roughly 40% that have been looking at this unprecedented blatant corruption and think "This is fine!", or they've just been tuned out.

There's also a lot of Chuck Todds out there who will always find a way to put equal blame on Democrats no matter how much the Republican party lowers itself. "Both sides are the same!"

Then there's Nancy Pelosi and a minority of Democrats that want the wider public to be all for impeachment before trying to lay out the case before the public. It's overstrategizing, or outsmarting yourself. There's a reason some of her statements on the matter have been borderline nonsensical.

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"The public is not galvanized on impeachment b/c the House speaker does not WANT the public ..." [View all] sharedvalues Sep 2019 OP

Nancy is really disappointing.. TheSocialDem Sep 2019 #1

Sad to say, but unless she pulls a rabbit out of a hat, when her four years are up, Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #9

Besides the corrupt standingtall Sep 2019 #2

Exactly sharedvalues Sep 2019 #3

The press that I have seen are very much in favor of impeachment. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #10

"....unified aggressive message...." pangaia Sep 2019 #26

I agree. Delmette2.0 Sep 2019 #37

lol, no TwilightZone Sep 2019 #4

Dems need to lead sharedvalues Sep 2019 #5

IKR? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #8

I'd wager many don't even know who she is mcar Sep 2019 #24

CORRECT Skittles Sep 2019 #6

So the only way the public can be galvanized is for Nancy Pelosi to do it? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #7

No, it doesn't need to be Pelosi. But where is the effort to drive opinion? JHB Sep 2019 #13

The Democrats are all over the airwaves talking about this. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #14

And without an explicit endorsement of impeaching Trump standingtall Sep 2019 #17

BS StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #19

No it's reality standingtall Sep 2019 #20

+1! mcar Sep 2019 #25

Fine. Point me to 5 video or audio clips from the last week of prominent Democrats... JHB Sep 2019 #33

What a ridiculous request StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #45

Yes, exactly, thank you. Dems are not "on the airwaves". sharedvalues Sep 2019 #66

They're not? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues Sep 2019 #78

"...in the faces of the general public..." sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #79

The message is actually pretty simple. Just take advantage of the background radiation... JHB Sep 2019 #81

It's mid September. Nearly the fall equinox. sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #82

She is certainly pouring cold water over it at every turn Bettie Sep 2019 #23

Doesn't look like she's pouring water on anything. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #29

I think it is accepted that Nancy Pelosi is the consummate politician. Warning... another rant... not_the_one Sep 2019 #57

If " nothing gets done without her approval or buy-in," how is the Judiciary Committee StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #58

2020 will give us our turn tirebiter Sep 2019 #39

Do you believe that the election will be free and fair? Bettie Sep 2019 #46

Do you believe that if the house impeached Trump, the senate would convict and he would be emmaverybo Sep 2019 #51

No, but I do believe that Bettie Sep 2019 #55

Not what I am saying. You gave a good reason for impeachment, regardless. For me, the emmaverybo Sep 2019 #59

I'm in a better mood this morning Bettie Sep 2019 #68

Definitely agree a landslide needed--for one, to wash out the "stupid/gullible" and malignant, and emmaverybo Sep 2019 #70

What is so freaking maddening about it Bettie Sep 2019 #71

True! emmaverybo Sep 2019 #72

"2020 will give us our turn." LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #77

LenaBaby, ALL of what you wrote! 👍 eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #80

Yes Bettie Sep 2019 #85

Who knew she was so powerful? FBaggins Sep 2019 #28

I don't even know what happened, what Pelosi said or did, what this OP is about. betsuni Sep 2019 #32

The most distasteful drinks are not served hot or cold, but like warm. world wide wally Sep 2019 #11

I'm going to clutch my pearls, get my smelling salts, and take a nitro tablet Crunchy Frog Sep 2019 #12

Every time I see your name Bettie Sep 2019 #69

Hey here's an idea StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #15

Who actually has the power to impeach Trump? Tom Steyer? standingtall Sep 2019 #18

So which is it? Are you complaining that Pelosi hasn't galvanized public support for impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #21

When people do the right thing regardless of public sentiment standingtall Sep 2019 #22

lol, that has never been the case in this country. JI7 Sep 2019 #31

Really? I could've of swore that not to long ago most people were against standingtall Sep 2019 #34

that's becsuse they actually got it and experienced the benefits of it JI7 Sep 2019 #36

It hurt Democrats in 2010 becauase it didn't go into effect until 2014 standingtall Sep 2019 #38

yes, that's my point, they fell for the lies from the republicans which the JI7 Sep 2019 #42

So why all the complaining that Pelosi hasn't single-handedly galvanized the publix StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #35

Where did ever Pelosi can single handily do anything? standingtall Sep 2019 #44

The more trump gets away with his crimes, the less likely we'll have a fair/free election ecstatic Sep 2019 #16

+1 leftstreet Sep 2019 #40

+1000 triron Sep 2019 #56

Chris Hayes? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #27

Chris Hayes actually said to Jamie Raskin tonight: StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #41

the same media was trashing the hearing yesterday as a disaster for Democrats JI7 Sep 2019 #43

Chris Hayes is an idiot. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #47

How about Adam Jentleson, Ex-Senate aide? sharedvalues Sep 2019 #63

lol, the areas of the country that like Pelosi already have reps that support impeachment JI7 Sep 2019 #30

But if Nancy just took over their teevees and talked to them StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #53

If the Dems did, yes. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #61

At least partly true Bradical79 Sep 2019 #48

+1000 Nevermypresident Sep 2019 #54

Tuned out, yes sharedvalues Sep 2019 #62

I'm sure the blogosphere and the twitterverse now best... brooklynite Sep 2019 #49

'White house aides say...' Volaris Sep 2019 #50

wow qazplm135 Sep 2019 #52

Nancy Pelosi holds that much sway over the public? Amazing. I don't think the public thinks about emmaverybo Sep 2019 #60

To all the people sarcastically saying 'gosh, who knew she had so much power'.. Kentonio Sep 2019 #64

Sadly yes. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #67

If she were deliberately subduing impeachment talk and she were all powerful, why is there still StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #75

I didn't say she is 'all powerful' and obviously nothing is going to stop impeachment talk happening Kentonio Sep 2019 #83

And there's a huge difference between "deliberately subduing impeachment talk" StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #84

If you agree with her position, why not just say so. Kentonio Sep 2019 #86

This has nothing to do with her position or whether I agree with it StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #87

My argument is perfectly logical Kentonio Sep 2019 #88

Chris is right. Needed to be said. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #65

Oh right - that's the Speaker's job now that a woman has the job. ehrnst Sep 2019 #73

IKR? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #76