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In reply to the discussion: "The public is not galvanized on impeachment b/c the House speaker does not WANT the public ..." [View all]not_the_one
(2,227 posts)She is in control of the democratic party, and nothing gets done without her approval or buy-in.
She has made it ABUNDANTLY clear that she thinks impeachment is a bad move, and is not having it. She under cuts Nadler at every opportunity. They argue about starting a consideration of a possible inquiry into.... bullshit.
She doesn't want it, and it will not happen. Somehow she thinks doing what is RIGHT is worse than doing nothing. We may not win, but we would at least be seen as TRYING to do what is right.
If they put out a coherent list of all the reasons for impeachment, with the instances of the turd's actual actions (everything, all inclusive, which could then be used as talking points and bullets for others to point to), and stated in no uncertain terms that this needed to happen for the democrats to actually get the supporting documentation to PROVE it, I think people would start seeing the big picture. If the people saw the big picture, the outrage would be apparent.
Why have no court cases settled these subpoena issues? Why has no court weighed in on the turd's position that he, or anything he does CAN NOT BE QUESTIONED OR INVESTIGATED? Why aren't all these cases on a fast track.
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!
Her unwillingness to take the lead is the EXACT same way Mueller turned his 2 year report into a joke. He refused to do anything other than say "read it for yourselves". He let Barr hold the report up to a mirror and said it reported EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what the report actually said, and it hung out there for weeks, until it was too late to try to effectively correct the narrative. All while Mueller stalled. He was a coward. (Oh, right, there was a STERNLY WORDED LETTER...)
The average American citizen can't (or won't) read the report for themselves. Hell, many of the house members and senators couldn't even manage to read more than bits and pieces.
Yeah, yeah, it was a blue print of what Congress should do, yet Congress couldn't DO anything because no one would talk, every subpoena was ignored... In order for everything to come into focus for we mere citizens, Mueller needed to make the argument, and he refused. After all, he IS a republican.
If we impeach, the republican senators will stop it, so it doesn't get done.
If we don't impeach, democrats are looked at as weak and ineffective, and who the fuck would want THEM running all three branches.
They (democrats) are too busy fighting amongst themselves, racing to the center that is two steps away from the right, who support David Duke, Roy Moore and white militiamen, because we sure wouldn't want to insult anyone in the fucking fly-over states, who think that THEY are the true America, and all us coastal elites can just shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.
AND we are expected to enthusiastically support Joe Biden, who thinks he can work with the republicans, doing all sorts of "across the aisle" shit.
J.F.C... Was he NOT paying attention at any point during the last ten years while the republicans publicly stated they would do NOTHING to help Obama. They actually stated that they would do EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD to fight EVERYTHING he would try to do.
There is no "across the aisle" that is going to happen. Turdface has turned the republican party into a friggin' CULT.
Playing safe, or playing nice, will get nothing done, and the democrats will do once again what they are famous for, pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.
At this point I would take the squad any day, over Pelosi.
Don't Get Me Started.......