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not_the_one

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57. I think it is accepted that Nancy Pelosi is the consummate politician. Warning... another rant...
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:49 PM
Sep 2019

She is in control of the democratic party, and nothing gets done without her approval or buy-in.

She has made it ABUNDANTLY clear that she thinks impeachment is a bad move, and is not having it. She under cuts Nadler at every opportunity. They argue about starting a consideration of a possible inquiry into.... bullshit.

She doesn't want it, and it will not happen. Somehow she thinks doing what is RIGHT is worse than doing nothing. We may not win, but we would at least be seen as TRYING to do what is right.

If they put out a coherent list of all the reasons for impeachment, with the instances of the turd's actual actions (everything, all inclusive, which could then be used as talking points and bullets for others to point to), and stated in no uncertain terms that this needed to happen for the democrats to actually get the supporting documentation to PROVE it, I think people would start seeing the big picture. If the people saw the big picture, the outrage would be apparent.

Why have no court cases settled these subpoena issues? Why has no court weighed in on the turd's position that he, or anything he does CAN NOT BE QUESTIONED OR INVESTIGATED? Why aren't all these cases on a fast track.

WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!

Her unwillingness to take the lead is the EXACT same way Mueller turned his 2 year report into a joke. He refused to do anything other than say "read it for yourselves". He let Barr hold the report up to a mirror and said it reported EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what the report actually said, and it hung out there for weeks, until it was too late to try to effectively correct the narrative. All while Mueller stalled. He was a coward. (Oh, right, there was a STERNLY WORDED LETTER...)

The average American citizen can't (or won't) read the report for themselves. Hell, many of the house members and senators couldn't even manage to read more than bits and pieces.

Yeah, yeah, it was a blue print of what Congress should do, yet Congress couldn't DO anything because no one would talk, every subpoena was ignored... In order for everything to come into focus for we mere citizens, Mueller needed to make the argument, and he refused. After all, he IS a republican.

If we impeach, the republican senators will stop it, so it doesn't get done.

If we don't impeach, democrats are looked at as weak and ineffective, and who the fuck would want THEM running all three branches.

They (democrats) are too busy fighting amongst themselves, racing to the center that is two steps away from the right, who support David Duke, Roy Moore and white militiamen, because we sure wouldn't want to insult anyone in the fucking fly-over states, who think that THEY are the true America, and all us coastal elites can just shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.

AND we are expected to enthusiastically support Joe Biden, who thinks he can work with the republicans, doing all sorts of "across the aisle" shit.

J.F.C... Was he NOT paying attention at any point during the last ten years while the republicans publicly stated they would do NOTHING to help Obama. They actually stated that they would do EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD to fight EVERYTHING he would try to do.

There is no "across the aisle" that is going to happen. Turdface has turned the republican party into a friggin' CULT.

Playing safe, or playing nice, will get nothing done, and the democrats will do once again what they are famous for, pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.

At this point I would take the squad any day, over Pelosi.

Don't Get Me Started.......

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Nancy is really disappointing.. TheSocialDem Sep 2019 #1
Sad to say, but unless she pulls a rabbit out of a hat, when her four years are up, Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #9
Besides the corrupt standingtall Sep 2019 #2
Exactly sharedvalues Sep 2019 #3
The press that I have seen are very much in favor of impeachment. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #10
"....unified aggressive message...." pangaia Sep 2019 #26
I agree. Delmette2.0 Sep 2019 #37
lol, no TwilightZone Sep 2019 #4
Dems need to lead sharedvalues Sep 2019 #5
IKR? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #8
I'd wager many don't even know who she is mcar Sep 2019 #24
CORRECT Skittles Sep 2019 #6
So the only way the public can be galvanized is for Nancy Pelosi to do it? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #7
No, it doesn't need to be Pelosi. But where is the effort to drive opinion? JHB Sep 2019 #13
The Democrats are all over the airwaves talking about this. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #14
And without an explicit endorsement of impeaching Trump standingtall Sep 2019 #17
BS StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #19
No it's reality standingtall Sep 2019 #20
+1! mcar Sep 2019 #25
Fine. Point me to 5 video or audio clips from the last week of prominent Democrats... JHB Sep 2019 #33
What a ridiculous request StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #45
Yes, exactly, thank you. Dems are not "on the airwaves". sharedvalues Sep 2019 #66
They're not? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues Sep 2019 #78
"...in the faces of the general public..." sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #79
The message is actually pretty simple. Just take advantage of the background radiation... JHB Sep 2019 #81
It's mid September. Nearly the fall equinox. sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #82
She is certainly pouring cold water over it at every turn Bettie Sep 2019 #23
Doesn't look like she's pouring water on anything. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #29
I think it is accepted that Nancy Pelosi is the consummate politician. Warning... another rant... not_the_one Sep 2019 #57
If " nothing gets done without her approval or buy-in," how is the Judiciary Committee StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #58
2020 will give us our turn tirebiter Sep 2019 #39
Do you believe that the election will be free and fair? Bettie Sep 2019 #46
Do you believe that if the house impeached Trump, the senate would convict and he would be emmaverybo Sep 2019 #51
No, but I do believe that Bettie Sep 2019 #55
Not what I am saying. You gave a good reason for impeachment, regardless. For me, the emmaverybo Sep 2019 #59
I'm in a better mood this morning Bettie Sep 2019 #68
Definitely agree a landslide needed--for one, to wash out the "stupid/gullible" and malignant, and emmaverybo Sep 2019 #70
What is so freaking maddening about it Bettie Sep 2019 #71
True! emmaverybo Sep 2019 #72
"2020 will give us our turn." LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #77
LenaBaby, ALL of what you wrote! 👍 eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #80
Yes Bettie Sep 2019 #85
Who knew she was so powerful? FBaggins Sep 2019 #28
I don't even know what happened, what Pelosi said or did, what this OP is about. betsuni Sep 2019 #32
The most distasteful drinks are not served hot or cold, but like warm. world wide wally Sep 2019 #11
I'm going to clutch my pearls, get my smelling salts, and take a nitro tablet Crunchy Frog Sep 2019 #12
Every time I see your name Bettie Sep 2019 #69
Hey here's an idea StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #15
Who actually has the power to impeach Trump? Tom Steyer? standingtall Sep 2019 #18
So which is it? Are you complaining that Pelosi hasn't galvanized public support for impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #21
When people do the right thing regardless of public sentiment standingtall Sep 2019 #22
lol, that has never been the case in this country. JI7 Sep 2019 #31
Really? I could've of swore that not to long ago most people were against standingtall Sep 2019 #34
that's becsuse they actually got it and experienced the benefits of it JI7 Sep 2019 #36
It hurt Democrats in 2010 becauase it didn't go into effect until 2014 standingtall Sep 2019 #38
yes, that's my point, they fell for the lies from the republicans which the JI7 Sep 2019 #42
So why all the complaining that Pelosi hasn't single-handedly galvanized the publix StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #35
Where did ever Pelosi can single handily do anything? standingtall Sep 2019 #44
The more trump gets away with his crimes, the less likely we'll have a fair/free election ecstatic Sep 2019 #16
+1 leftstreet Sep 2019 #40
+1000 triron Sep 2019 #56
Chris Hayes? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #27
Chris Hayes actually said to Jamie Raskin tonight: StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #41
the same media was trashing the hearing yesterday as a disaster for Democrats JI7 Sep 2019 #43
Chris Hayes is an idiot. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #47
How about Adam Jentleson, Ex-Senate aide? sharedvalues Sep 2019 #63
lol, the areas of the country that like Pelosi already have reps that support impeachment JI7 Sep 2019 #30
But if Nancy just took over their teevees and talked to them StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #53
If the Dems did, yes. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #61
At least partly true Bradical79 Sep 2019 #48
+1000 Nevermypresident Sep 2019 #54
Tuned out, yes sharedvalues Sep 2019 #62
I'm sure the blogosphere and the twitterverse now best... brooklynite Sep 2019 #49
'White house aides say...' Volaris Sep 2019 #50
wow qazplm135 Sep 2019 #52
Nancy Pelosi holds that much sway over the public? Amazing. I don't think the public thinks about emmaverybo Sep 2019 #60
To all the people sarcastically saying 'gosh, who knew she had so much power'.. Kentonio Sep 2019 #64
Sadly yes. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #67
If she were deliberately subduing impeachment talk and she were all powerful, why is there still StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #75
I didn't say she is 'all powerful' and obviously nothing is going to stop impeachment talk happening Kentonio Sep 2019 #83
And there's a huge difference between "deliberately subduing impeachment talk" StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #84
If you agree with her position, why not just say so. Kentonio Sep 2019 #86
This has nothing to do with her position or whether I agree with it StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #87
My argument is perfectly logical Kentonio Sep 2019 #88
Chris is right. Needed to be said. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #65
Oh right - that's the Speaker's job now that a woman has the job. ehrnst Sep 2019 #73
IKR? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #76
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