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In reply to the discussion: **Breaking** Trump's communications w foreign leader part of controversial whistleblower complaint [View all]hlthe2b
(112,982 posts)109. Josh Marshall (TPM) brings up several good points:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-whistleblower-complaint-is-about-trump
Theres a lot of discussion and context in the Post article. But thats the central reported detail. Its not clear who the foreign leader was or what was promised or really anything else. The additional key detail is this: the complaint from the unidentified whistleblower was submitted to Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson. He determined that the complaint was credible and troubling enough to be a matter of urgent concern, a legal standard that requires reporting the matter to Congress.
Obviously, anyone in the government can file a whistleblower complaint. They can be frivolous or nonsensical. But the Inspector General determined it was serious and of a pressing nature. Atkinson was nominated to the position by President Trump in 2018 but he appears to be a career government lawyer. He worked at DOJ for 15 years prior to his nomination.
The decision to withhold the information from Congress was made by acting DNI Joseph Maguire, whos in that position after the dismissal of Dan Coats. But the Post suggests that its not actually Maguires choice. The Department of Justice told him to withhold the information from Congress.
Obviously, anyone in the government can file a whistleblower complaint. They can be frivolous or nonsensical. But the Inspector General determined it was serious and of a pressing nature. Atkinson was nominated to the position by President Trump in 2018 but he appears to be a career government lawyer. He worked at DOJ for 15 years prior to his nomination.
The decision to withhold the information from Congress was made by acting DNI Joseph Maguire, whos in that position after the dismissal of Dan Coats. But the Post suggests that its not actually Maguires choice. The Department of Justice told him to withhold the information from Congress.
One final point. The Post article is sourced to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter. Thats odd. This only happened about a month ago. Former officials shouldnt really know anything about this unless somehow they were in the loop and retired like last week or something. Thats not totally implausible as people seem to be being pushed out of the ODNI in the wake of Coats departure. But it sounds (and this is just speculation based on news experience) that this information is being pushed out into the public realm using ex-officials as intermediaries. In other words, people on the inside think something is wrong and theyre using go-betweens with high level clearances to get the information public. Again, this last point is speculation. But I think its a logical surmise.
It sounds like something pretty serious is up here.
It sounds like something pretty serious is up here.
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**Breaking** Trump's communications w foreign leader part of controversial whistleblower complaint [View all]
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
OP
Honestly, is there any amount of apparent traitorous behavior they won't excuse?
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#2
More has to leak... even if the IG only speaks to Schiff's committee in private
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#14
O'Donnell just read line saying the whistleblower act is not subject to judicial review.
muntrv
Sep 2019
#67
Remember the spy extracted to the US & subsequently doxxed? That Putin desperately WANTS?
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#41
the GOP has been working for decades to establish a bullet proof infrastructure to protect their
yaesu
Sep 2019
#43
Now the whistleblower, according to law, can go directly with the docs to Congress, once the
ancianita
Sep 2019
#50
And just by chance the voting machines were made with electronic backdoors that allowed ...
Botany
Sep 2019
#56
Yes, and just by chance MF45 is visiting all the blue states, and will over time be able to
ancianita
Sep 2019
#59
Yes. And Trump's not worried about those states right now. He's in the harder terrain, like CA.
ancianita
Sep 2019
#74
Mueller said publicly that all levels of cyber attacks are going on "right now." Could the
ancianita
Sep 2019
#63
Thanks. Welp, the whistleblower is either in the FBI or intel, then. My guess is the FBI.
ancianita
Sep 2019
#128
Even before that the GOP and part of the CIA had been working on manipulation of electronic ....
Botany
Sep 2019
#136
Then what. I'm clueless about what the nation could do with it. He's betting noone can stop
ancianita
Sep 2019
#113
Yeah, this seems to be a truly 'chilling' thing the whistle-blower came upon.
LenaBaby61
Sep 2019
#57
Intel is listening and the legal whistleblower protections go out the window. The whistleblower
ancianita
Sep 2019
#75
The IG meeting with Schiff is over. This is so urgent that Schiff will act on this NEXT WEEK.
ancianita
Sep 2019
#125
He knows Trump is a mobster, protected by dark forces that would kill if needed.
Doodley
Sep 2019
#77
The most shocking revelation is that Trump only made an improper promise to ONE foreign leader.
Doodley
Sep 2019
#76
The key to the story is from Abramson's comments..(see post 33 by....hlthe2b.... )
Stuart G
Sep 2019
#101
Yes. Some on AM Joe are trying to diminish the seriousness by emphasizing Presdident can declassify
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#102
Damn interesting that Trump made sure Gordon or Sanner wouldn't succeed Coats, but Maguire
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2019
#114
Praying for delicious irony that the call was on Dump's personal, unauthorized phone
flibbitygiblets
Sep 2019
#126
I'll take "I promise not to interfere when you occupy Ukraine" for $500, Alex.
COLGATE4
Sep 2019
#111
After just listening to Schiff, I'm even more worried. According to him, the matter has pretty much
Vinca
Sep 2019
#118
You should find and watch last night's Lawrence O'Donnell panel. This law was written specifically
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#121
NEW: The whistleblower is being represented by Andrew P. Bakaj, a former CIA officer.
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#123