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Jackpine Radical

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29. There is actually a pretty extensive overlap between psychopathy

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:24 AM

Sep 2012

and Aspergers. I have seen psychologists in criminal forensic settings mistake the latter for the former. For example, Aspergers people show a lack of empathy because they don't "get" social interactions & nonverbal cues. They often have deep knowledge about eccentric topics, which they like to talk about at length, thereby prompting the careless evaluator to score them as "grandiose," etc.

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I think Mitt has Aspergers Syndrome [View all] Heather MC Sep 2012 OP

Or else he could just be that out of touch. ananda Sep 2012 #1

60 years in a bubble will do that too. russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #2

I just think he's an old-fashioned socio-path. Cleita Sep 2012 #3

And that's what makes him scary, We need a President that would be a little bothered Heather MC Sep 2012 #17

There is actually a pretty extensive overlap between psychopathy Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #29

This is exactly the sort of misunderstanding that leads to the armchair diagnosing going on Pithlet Sep 2012 #36

If I understood Jackpine correctly (from a thread long, long ago), 'sociopath' is not coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #62

Good point. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #66

Yes, exactly. Pithlet Sep 2012 #73

Bingo. hifiguy Sep 2012 #108

Sorry,but you're absolutely wrong about liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #95

I didn't say they lack empathy, but that they don't SHOW it Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #120

I know did you not MEAN bad, but DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #128

What horseshit. We aspies have a conscience, sociopaths don't. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #140

I was talking about misdiagnosis based on superficial appearances. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #143

Aspies have a lot of empathy- sometime too much elkepelka Sep 2012 #142

I think it's a fielder's choice. sofa king Sep 2012 #75

Agreed. I am dx'd Asperger's hifiguy Sep 2012 #105

I completely agree with you. smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #160

I posted that months ago and was vilified here... PCIntern Sep 2012 #4

I think you were on to something. randome Sep 2012 #9

No, he isn't. As has been pointed out on this thread, liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #96

I will have to look up your post Heather MC Sep 2012 #15

Look in my journal here PCIntern Sep 2012 #23

I don't think it's a matter of getting roasted for your assessment matt819 Sep 2012 #109

You were not vilified by me - Mira Sep 2012 #60

It's in his journal on page 7 - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #65

I thank you verily - n/t Mira Sep 2012 #111

Verily you are most welcome! (I'm channeling my inner coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #124

I actually think there's some truth to this. Bush (Poppy) was out of touch. This guy Mitt is odd. reformist2 Sep 2012 #5

Was POTUS joking when he mentioned not only has Mitt not released his tax returns but also nc4bo Sep 2012 #6

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm... Heather MC Sep 2012 #21

Probably the most interesting post here BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #37

They aren't required to ann--- Sep 2012 #74

Mccain released his and he's been around the block a few times too. There were some questions nc4bo Sep 2012 #92

A thread a few months ago talked about Ilsa Sep 2012 #134

I've been thinking that for a while now. His social barometer is way off. nt Kahuna Sep 2012 #7

Thanks I was worried I was going to get totally blasted Heather MC Sep 2012 #11

You deserve to be totally blasted for your Fristian diagnosis. onenote Sep 2012 #145

Perhaps i do but... Heather MC Sep 2012 #147

The fact that others may "think" it doesn't justify it onenote Sep 2012 #162

The difference is, though, that he liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #98

No. cali Sep 2012 #8

+1 madinmaryland Sep 2012 #150

I think he just has Asshole Syndrome myself.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #10

Asshole Syndrome--eventually to be included in DSM-14 pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #34

OMG, that was hilarious. That's exactly what he needs! valerief Sep 2012 #59

ROTFLMAO - Just posted to my FB page as the cure for Mitt's social coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #77

I think there's a much easier explanation IDemo Sep 2012 #12

I think that's a chicken and egg question laundry_queen Sep 2012 #99

Disagree IDemo Sep 2012 #116

Not aspies - I was talking about sociopaths laundry_queen Sep 2012 #139

This is a disgusting and offensive OP, an insult to Aspies. Dr. Frist-like diagnoses msanthrope Sep 2012 #13

Is it really that hard to tell who might have Aspergers? reformist2 Sep 2012 #16

There are signs. Pithlet Sep 2012 #19

Exactly, I may not be a Dr, but when my youngest son was two, I was qualified enough Heather MC Sep 2012 #45

What else made you qualified was you know your son Pithlet Sep 2012 #53

In Mitt's case i believe Heather MC Sep 2012 #85

unmitigated bullshit. cali Sep 2012 #72

apparently the aspergers community does not feel it is unmitigated BS Heather MC Sep 2012 #87

your basing it on one thread in one Aspie community? elkepelka Sep 2012 #156

Welcome to DU! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #159

Thank you cali Robyn66 Sep 2012 #148

The bullying incident where he got with others to cut the kid's hair - NOT Aspie. MH1 Sep 2012 #64

I think the bullying alone laundry_queen Sep 2012 #100

100% correct. hifiguy Sep 2012 #112

Agreed. He strikes me, seriously, as more of a narcisisstic sociopath. n/t K Gardner Sep 2012 #157

If you can't recognize the signs, then you shouldn't diagnosis, doctor or no... Moonwalk Sep 2012 #67

Are you a doctor qualified to diagnose Mitt? :) reformist2 Sep 2012 #69

Nope. But you misunderstood. I agree that people are qualified to diagnosis Aspergers even if... Moonwalk Sep 2012 #80

His complete lack of empathy and self-centeredness pnwmom Sep 2012 #104

i have experienced the grandiose narcissism. his inability to create facial expressions seabeyond Sep 2012 #106

Agreed. Pithlet Sep 2012 #18

I apologize, being Offensive is not my intent Heather MC Sep 2012 #20

You weren't being offensive, you were asking a relevant question and some sob sisters byeya Sep 2012 #24

Yes... PCIntern Sep 2012 #31

I think he has a periapical abscess foo_bar Sep 2012 #44

Mitt is one of the most dishonest SOBs in the world. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #56

Dr. House to confirm, please! randome Sep 2012 #61

You know what, Heather??? One day, someone's gonna look at some asshole and their behavior msanthrope Sep 2012 #113

Agree. I also object to all the armchair psychiatry that goes on around here. cbayer Sep 2012 #22

Disliking someone is not enough for a dx loyalsister Sep 2012 #68

Sorry, PCIntern Sep 2012 #25

PC, respectfully...my daughter spends her days struggling to show the 'neurotypical' what a great msanthrope Sep 2012 #115

I'm an NT and I really do sympathize with her. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #119

Hi... PCIntern Sep 2012 #122

I understand, and thank you. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #123

and yet the Asperger community or Aspies to you asks the same question 6 months ago grantcart Sep 2012 #26

The OP sounded like; "What an asshole! Maybe he has Aspbergers?" n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #49

Aspie is the term my daughter uses. There is no substance to address. msanthrope Sep 2012 #110

No substance to address grantcart Sep 2012 #117

+1000 lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #48

another thank you! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #151

Mit is the culmination of living a privileged life for 65 years madokie Sep 2012 #14

Respectfully disagree PCIntern Sep 2012 #27

Special Pithlet Sep 2012 #32

How does that change what I said, it doesn't! madokie Sep 2012 #127

he lies too much for me to think that fascisthunter Sep 2012 #28

One of those links was from October 2011, which also mentions Asperger's. Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #30

No, he's simply an entitled dick. Liking mean-spirited jokes is not a characteristic of Aspergers. Brickbat Sep 2012 #33

+ 10000 loyalsister Sep 2012 #78

mittens is the direct opposite of his father madrchsod Sep 2012 #35

or, they simply are of two different generations, ya think? loyalsister Sep 2012 #76

There might be some evidence of long term mental deficit but intaglio Sep 2012 #38

husband has issues with walk. bugs him. these are not big things for him. but twice seabeyond Sep 2012 #50

The walk could be explained by too tight Magic Underwear nadine_mn Sep 2012 #135

Bush to woman working three jobs: "what a great American story" IDemo Sep 2012 #39

He has an inability to connect or empathize, but I think it's a personality disorder. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #40

I agree. I think he has Aspergers. Jindal provided him an opportunity SDjack Sep 2012 #41

Trees are the right height. grantcart Sep 2012 #51

I don't know. . I think his problem is B Calm Sep 2012 #42

Asperger's is a psychological and not a health issue, but it's still kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #43

sorry, being the CEO of a company like Bain or the Governor cali Sep 2012 #54

Online sources mention lip smacking as a sign of autism aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #46

You mean like this? starroute Sep 2012 #63

And Ryan with the tongue poking the jaw thing is just fucking creepy. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #146

during his speech, looking closing at expressions when trying to be heartfelt, it is like plastered seabeyond Sep 2012 #47

I don't. I think he's a psychopath. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #52

That's a possibility. Of course, he could just have 1%er Syndrome. valerief Sep 2012 #55

"what's wrong with Mitt" hfojvt Sep 2012 #57

No, he's just a prick Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #58

I do too. Although I wonder about that car crash in France, he was in bad shape.. CK_John Sep 2012 #70

As a professional I'll say this: nolabear Sep 2012 #71

Right! Rmoney is just a tool. nt valerief Sep 2012 #79

+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2012 #114

And not every person who has trouble with socializing is autistic. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #118

There are a number of things that could cause Aspergers-like behavior starroute Sep 2012 #81

I doubt it LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #82

He has been taught to respond in this way. BanzaiBonnie Sep 2012 #83

A question for the psych and medical professionals here: can coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #84

Check out my reply upthread. In short, of course. But dx are only dx. nolabear Sep 2012 #102

I truly think you are wrong. And as the mother of a child who is on the spectrum, I think it a cruel Moonwalk Sep 2012 #86

Yep. Look at when he gave that kid in his high school a haircut. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #89

I am not going to let my temper get the best of me here because I know the OP means no harm Robyn66 Sep 2012 #88

It is obvious to me that he does *not* have Aspergers. dawg Sep 2012 #90

Excuse me, my son is an aspie liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #91

THANK YOU Robyn66 Sep 2012 #94

You are so right. dawg Sep 2012 #121

No kidding! liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #132

Thank you! JohnnyLib2 Sep 2012 #126

danke fascisthunter Sep 2012 #137

As an aspie who's sometimes an asshole, Mitt's just the latter n/t DotGone Sep 2012 #93

WHERE IS ODIN??? Robyn66 Sep 2012 #97

Why does he have to have 'something'? Rex Sep 2012 #101

So he chews a lot of gum rock Sep 2012 #103

Nah - his just has never had to consider KT2000 Sep 2012 #107

I'm Autistic, and I am bone weary of having us be confused with sociopaths. KamaAina Sep 2012 #125

What they said. It's 'Asperger's'. Not 'Asshat's'. n/t renie408 Sep 2012 #130

Bingo! elkepelka Sep 2012 #155

Welcome to DU! KamaAina Sep 2012 #161

I think I understand... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #129

Youngest son of priviledged/wealthy parents.. SoCalDem Sep 2012 #131

How about this: Brigid Sep 2012 #133

Not mentally ill; emotionally ill. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #136

This Aspie thinks he's a narcissist. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #138

Hi ODIN!!!!!! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #149

You have got to be kidding me elkepelka Sep 2012 #141

He is an asshole and I seriously doubt it's because of Aspergers SomethingFishy Sep 2012 #144

I'd been thinking that also. marew Sep 2012 #152

I have a son who is high-functioning autistic. It is not that he does not care, it is that he OregonBlue Sep 2012 #153

I think you have Assbooger's Syndrome. be still and know Sep 2012 #154

FFS: not everyone we dislike is a sociopath, a narcissist, has Asperger's, etc REP Sep 2012 #158

I haven't taken this idea seriously until just now. I watched a You Tube clip Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #163

Did Mitt Romney Lie about Causing the accident that Killed Leola Anderson -- a passenger in his car? courseofhistory Sep 2012 #164

Your source please... DURHAM D Sep 2012 #165