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ancianita

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84. Because she's not legally a "whistleblower" yet. Just a "leaker."

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:02 PM

Sep 2019

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The DOJ (contacted by the "acting" DNI for instructions) is poised to attack this whistleblower, who doesn't yet have the full protections of the 2012 Whistleblower Protections Enhancement Act, because she hasn't done what would give her bona fide whistleblower status AND those protections -- actually turn over the intel to Congress.

This is similar to how DHS prevents legal asylum status to asylum seekers by not letting asylum seekers actually enter the country. Already having done the deed gives you the protected legal status.

So, in my view, (I'm not a lawyer but have been reading up on a couple of books on whistleblowing) she's not just hiring a lawyer to protect her as a leaker, but retaining him (a CIA whistleblower lawyer) to help her get whistleblower status by authorizing him to represent her in delivering the intel directly to Congress. This legally protects Congress' legal authority to bring charges against the prez.

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PELOSI STATEMENT on Whistleblower Complaint [View all] highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP

Then get a friggin writ of mandamus and get the information. Quit pussy footing around. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #1

She should say: "Our criminal President must be removed ". Funtatlaguy Sep 2019 #9

There are DUers on here who should be in the federal government and/or sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #10

"We would hope that Republicans would join us in supporting the Constitution" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #23

Right? How many times are we going to be Charlie Brown to their Lucy pulling away the football? SunSeeker Sep 2019 #36

Yes, yes, yes to all comments above about Pelosi's guarded rhetoric. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #69

Yes!!! Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #89

Perfect! Send this to Nancy immediately LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #91

But, but, they wear flag pins! Doesn't that prove they are patriots? tclambert Sep 2019 #92

Exactly!!! Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #87

You'll love this... SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2019 #40

They have no shame. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #75

Exactly! Remember the old joke... Duppers Sep 2019 #59

Join us in doing nothing? Maraya1969 Sep 2019 #99

"the new THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #102

amen EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #47

She's waiting for next Thursday when Maguire either appears or doesn't appear. n/t pnwmom Sep 2019 #60

Rob Reiner seems to want a little bit more BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #2

enough with the threats stopdiggin Sep 2019 #14

He's out of his mind on this one BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #16

impeachment took a big step forward stopdiggin Sep 2019 #25

I understand your point, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #37

+1,000 Bettie Sep 2019 #65

Enthusiasm has to 'Trump' hate... Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #48

How many years of consistent voting Dem KPN Sep 2019 #73

So you recommending third party candidates? (nt) stopdiggin Sep 2019 #95

No. I asked you some practical and straight-forward KPN Sep 2019 #98

I found your post a confusing response stopdiggin Sep 2019 #103

Lol. Give me a break. Here's what you personally said ... your words not anyone else's: KPN Sep 2019 #104

OK stopdiggin Sep 2019 #105

Loyal Dems will vote for whoever is our candidate. But we need Independents as well YOHABLO Sep 2019 #94

He's absolutely correct brutus smith Sep 2019 #28

Yup. I'm fucking sick and tired of the "No we can't" chorus. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #38

"Many loyal Democrats will abandon the party." Oxymoronic surely? Hortensis Sep 2019 #46

You tell 'em Meathead! Botany Sep 2019 #55

More like ArcticFox Sep 2019 #68

He is right. Also, many potential loyal Democrats KPN Sep 2019 #71

Your mild concern is duly noted. awesomerwb1 Sep 2019 #3

Blah, blah, blah Cartoonist Sep 2019 #4

I'm in my 60's. Words don't work for me, anymore. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #97

Whatever. nt Maven Sep 2019 #5

He SHALL present his taxes too....they give the finger to any laws they wish spanone Sep 2019 #6

The GOP says that the whistleblower may be personally liable RainCaster Sep 2019 #7

Until Contempt Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #8

Fuck impeachment, she should be calling for his resignation nt coti Sep 2019 #11

+1 leftstreet Sep 2019 #12

Completely agree. DrToast Sep 2019 #56

THIS!!!! Zoonart Sep 2019 #77

Yes!!! Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #88

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #93

..."If the President has done what has been alleged"... ooky Sep 2019 #13

ITTMFA Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #15

Hopefully as they get to the bottom of this last straw malaise Sep 2019 #21

Had to look that one up Delphinus Sep 2019 #39

"Impeach The Treasonous Mo-Fo Already" lastlib Sep 2019 #63

Aha! Delphinus Sep 2019 #80

And if you don't play nice, we'll send ANOTHER sternly written letter! progressoid Sep 2019 #17

In the meantime, we'll be over there passing legislation that will go nowhere! Maven Sep 2019 #19

No kidding. BlueWI Sep 2019 #96

If he was about to shot someone on 6th Avenue it could this could not be any less serious. BSdetect Sep 2019 #18

This is orders of magnitude beyond mere murder. triron Sep 2019 #32

Searching and searching for any ACTION VERBS, not finding them..just another STERNLY WORDED LETTER BamaRefugee Sep 2019 #20

Yeah, it's a "Let's watch that shit" Duppers Sep 2019 #62

Yada, yada, yada. nancy1942 Sep 2019 #22

:) There's a fix for high anxiety, Nancy. Take a break. Hortensis Sep 2019 #31

But some of us are lawyers who police DU and get off on quashing any hope for justice Brawndo Sep 2019 #33

Hope? Don't you think hope is better found somewhere Hortensis Sep 2019 #42

I don't see it as wallowing in helpless anger Brawndo Sep 2019 #51

"fighters who will not accept these injustices..." Yes! Much better. Hortensis Sep 2019 #52

Terrifying! I'm sure the #GOPTraitors are quaking in their boots! Arazi Sep 2019 #24

We need more action and less talk. LonePirate Sep 2019 #26

SCORCHED EARTH! Burn the Kremlin's house down! ffr Sep 2019 #27

Here's her contact form: CrispyQ Sep 2019 #29

She sounds poised... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #30

What words Pelosi uttered "sounds like she's onboard for impeachment"? triron Sep 2019 #34

I would say... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #61

I've heard these before. triron Sep 2019 #70

Oh boy. A scolding. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #35

Close to the score becoming DEMs 2 v. GOP 0. So, ReThugs will not help us DEMs. NCjack Sep 2019 #41

well, gee thanks. I'll back to washing my dog now. Javaman Sep 2019 #43

Now follow the strongly-worded letter with strong action, Madame Speaker. Doremus Sep 2019 #44

Per Pelosi " . . . so that we can fulfill our responsibility to protect the American people and our in2herbs Sep 2019 #45

Another strongly worded statement... Snackshack Sep 2019 #49

DO SOMETHING orangecrush Sep 2019 #50

Note the last sentence, "supporting the Constitution." Carefully chosen words. CaptainTruth Sep 2019 #53

this will go nowhere just like everything else... berksdem Sep 2019 #54

I'm sure that a strongly worded letter skydive forever Sep 2019 #57

She's almost there, Baked Potato Sep 2019 #58

The evidence proves Trump committed high crimes. OliverQ Sep 2019 #64

Talk, talk, talk. grumpyduck Sep 2019 #66

Lawyers helping Trump are rewriting the executive branch's power as a new constitution of oligarchy. ancianita Sep 2019 #67

FUCKING DO SOMETHING! world wide wally Sep 2019 #72

It could be something as simple as timing and waiting until after the Repugnants have officially cstanleytech Sep 2019 #85

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Our side is looking really fucking weak. Vinca Sep 2019 #74

Still can't bring herself to use the word impeachment. Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #76

Republicans, right-wingers, and Trump(s): "Oh yeah, what are you going to do about it"? Duncan Grant Sep 2019 #78

......We would hope that Republicans would join us....... lunasun Sep 2019 #79

Why can't this "whistleblower" contact the House directly? NT Progressive Jones Sep 2019 #81

On Rachel last night, Schiff admitted that if the whistleblower did so, he couldn't guarantee ecstatic Sep 2019 #82

Because she's not legally a "whistleblower" yet. Just a "leaker." ancianita Sep 2019 #84

Thanks for the info. You mentioned "she". Is that a known fact? nt Progressive Jones Sep 2019 #107

No. But if the Dan Coats story is true, the whistleblower is a she. She was his deputy in the WH. ancianita Sep 2019 #108

KR! Cha Sep 2019 #83

NOT ENOUGH! Pepsidog Sep 2019 #86

This is part of my frustration Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #90

Maybe the real question we should be asking PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #100

Time to act Speaker Pelosi!! Beyond time. How do you continue to ignore this cancer? SaveOurDemocracy Sep 2019 #101

Don't just stand there, do something! Joe941 Sep 2019 #106