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81. There are a number of things that could cause Aspergers-like behavior
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

My older son has (or in in some areas had when younger) a number of what are commonly listed as characteristics of Aspergers: difficulty picking up subtleties of body language and tones of voice, trouble making eye contact, a certain obsessiveness, talking about his own interests at length, bad handwriting and trouble tying shoelaces, oversensitivity to stimuli, occasionally a "robotic" way of speaking.

But when we were taking him around to psychologists and asked about Aspergers, we were immediately told, "Oh, definitely not. You can tell just by looking at him." In his case, it turned out to be attention deficit plus some other stuff that make it harder for him to handle outside stimuli -- which he often coped with by deliberately tuning out -- and more preoccupied with his own inner "chatter."

But one of the problems was that because he's very smart, none of his teachers ever suggested that we might get professional help, even though he struggled in certain areas. His first grade teacher complained that he couldn't stay on task for 10-15 minutes like the other children, but concluded "that's just the way he is." In high school, I asked his gifted teacher about the possibility of attention deficit and she said, "smart kids get bored in class a lot and their minds wander."

In Romney's case, I suspect there's something similar at work, except that instead of intelligence, it's money. That is, he's got some form of social deficit -- which might or might not be Aspergers -- but because of his background, he was always indulged and never had to actually deal with it and learn how to get along with people.

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Or else he could just be that out of touch. ananda Sep 2012 #1
60 years in a bubble will do that too. russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #2
I just think he's an old-fashioned socio-path. Cleita Sep 2012 #3
And that's what makes him scary, We need a President that would be a little bothered Heather MC Sep 2012 #17
There is actually a pretty extensive overlap between psychopathy Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #29
This is exactly the sort of misunderstanding that leads to the armchair diagnosing going on Pithlet Sep 2012 #36
If I understood Jackpine correctly (from a thread long, long ago), 'sociopath' is not coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #62
Good point. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #66
Yes, exactly. Pithlet Sep 2012 #73
Bingo. hifiguy Sep 2012 #108
Sorry,but you're absolutely wrong about liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #95
I didn't say they lack empathy, but that they don't SHOW it Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #120
I know did you not MEAN bad, but DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #128
What horseshit. We aspies have a conscience, sociopaths don't. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #140
I was talking about misdiagnosis based on superficial appearances. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #143
Aspies have a lot of empathy- sometime too much elkepelka Sep 2012 #142
I think it's a fielder's choice. sofa king Sep 2012 #75
Agreed. I am dx'd Asperger's hifiguy Sep 2012 #105
I completely agree with you. smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #160
I posted that months ago and was vilified here... PCIntern Sep 2012 #4
I think you were on to something. randome Sep 2012 #9
No, he isn't. As has been pointed out on this thread, liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #96
I will have to look up your post Heather MC Sep 2012 #15
Look in my journal here PCIntern Sep 2012 #23
I don't think it's a matter of getting roasted for your assessment matt819 Sep 2012 #109
You were not vilified by me - Mira Sep 2012 #60
It's in his journal on page 7 - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #65
I thank you verily - n/t Mira Sep 2012 #111
Verily you are most welcome! (I'm channeling my inner coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #124
I actually think there's some truth to this. Bush (Poppy) was out of touch. This guy Mitt is odd. reformist2 Sep 2012 #5
Was POTUS joking when he mentioned not only has Mitt not released his tax returns but also nc4bo Sep 2012 #6
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm... Heather MC Sep 2012 #21
Probably the most interesting post here BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #37
They aren't required to ann--- Sep 2012 #74
Mccain released his and he's been around the block a few times too. There were some questions nc4bo Sep 2012 #92
A thread a few months ago talked about Ilsa Sep 2012 #134
I've been thinking that for a while now. His social barometer is way off. nt Kahuna Sep 2012 #7
Thanks I was worried I was going to get totally blasted Heather MC Sep 2012 #11
You deserve to be totally blasted for your Fristian diagnosis. onenote Sep 2012 #145
Perhaps i do but... Heather MC Sep 2012 #147
The fact that others may "think" it doesn't justify it onenote Sep 2012 #162
The difference is, though, that he liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #98
No. cali Sep 2012 #8
+1 madinmaryland Sep 2012 #150
I think he just has Asshole Syndrome myself.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #10
Asshole Syndrome--eventually to be included in DSM-14 pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #34
OMG, that was hilarious. That's exactly what he needs! valerief Sep 2012 #59
ROTFLMAO - Just posted to my FB page as the cure for Mitt's social coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #77
I think there's a much easier explanation IDemo Sep 2012 #12
I think that's a chicken and egg question laundry_queen Sep 2012 #99
Disagree IDemo Sep 2012 #116
Not aspies - I was talking about sociopaths laundry_queen Sep 2012 #139
This is a disgusting and offensive OP, an insult to Aspies. Dr. Frist-like diagnoses msanthrope Sep 2012 #13
Is it really that hard to tell who might have Aspergers? reformist2 Sep 2012 #16
There are signs. Pithlet Sep 2012 #19
Exactly, I may not be a Dr, but when my youngest son was two, I was qualified enough Heather MC Sep 2012 #45
What else made you qualified was you know your son Pithlet Sep 2012 #53
In Mitt's case i believe Heather MC Sep 2012 #85
unmitigated bullshit. cali Sep 2012 #72
apparently the aspergers community does not feel it is unmitigated BS Heather MC Sep 2012 #87
your basing it on one thread in one Aspie community? elkepelka Sep 2012 #156
Welcome to DU! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #159
Thank you cali Robyn66 Sep 2012 #148
The bullying incident where he got with others to cut the kid's hair - NOT Aspie. MH1 Sep 2012 #64
I think the bullying alone laundry_queen Sep 2012 #100
100% correct. hifiguy Sep 2012 #112
Agreed. He strikes me, seriously, as more of a narcisisstic sociopath. n/t K Gardner Sep 2012 #157
If you can't recognize the signs, then you shouldn't diagnosis, doctor or no... Moonwalk Sep 2012 #67
Are you a doctor qualified to diagnose Mitt? :) reformist2 Sep 2012 #69
Nope. But you misunderstood. I agree that people are qualified to diagnosis Aspergers even if... Moonwalk Sep 2012 #80
His complete lack of empathy and self-centeredness pnwmom Sep 2012 #104
i have experienced the grandiose narcissism. his inability to create facial expressions seabeyond Sep 2012 #106
Agreed. Pithlet Sep 2012 #18
I apologize, being Offensive is not my intent Heather MC Sep 2012 #20
You weren't being offensive, you were asking a relevant question and some sob sisters byeya Sep 2012 #24
Yes... PCIntern Sep 2012 #31
I think he has a periapical abscess foo_bar Sep 2012 #44
Mitt is one of the most dishonest SOBs in the world. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #56
Dr. House to confirm, please! randome Sep 2012 #61
You know what, Heather??? One day, someone's gonna look at some asshole and their behavior msanthrope Sep 2012 #113
Agree. I also object to all the armchair psychiatry that goes on around here. cbayer Sep 2012 #22
Disliking someone is not enough for a dx loyalsister Sep 2012 #68
Sorry, PCIntern Sep 2012 #25
PC, respectfully...my daughter spends her days struggling to show the 'neurotypical' what a great msanthrope Sep 2012 #115
I'm an NT and I really do sympathize with her. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #119
Hi... PCIntern Sep 2012 #122
I understand, and thank you. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #123
and yet the Asperger community or Aspies to you asks the same question 6 months ago grantcart Sep 2012 #26
The OP sounded like; "What an asshole! Maybe he has Aspbergers?" n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #49
Aspie is the term my daughter uses. There is no substance to address. msanthrope Sep 2012 #110
No substance to address grantcart Sep 2012 #117
+1000 lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #48
another thank you! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #151
Mit is the culmination of living a privileged life for 65 years madokie Sep 2012 #14
Respectfully disagree PCIntern Sep 2012 #27
Special Pithlet Sep 2012 #32
How does that change what I said, it doesn't! madokie Sep 2012 #127
he lies too much for me to think that fascisthunter Sep 2012 #28
One of those links was from October 2011, which also mentions Asperger's. Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #30
No, he's simply an entitled dick. Liking mean-spirited jokes is not a characteristic of Aspergers. Brickbat Sep 2012 #33
+ 10000 loyalsister Sep 2012 #78
mittens is the direct opposite of his father madrchsod Sep 2012 #35
or, they simply are of two different generations, ya think? loyalsister Sep 2012 #76
There might be some evidence of long term mental deficit but intaglio Sep 2012 #38
husband has issues with walk. bugs him. these are not big things for him. but twice seabeyond Sep 2012 #50
The walk could be explained by too tight Magic Underwear nadine_mn Sep 2012 #135
Bush to woman working three jobs: "what a great American story" IDemo Sep 2012 #39
He has an inability to connect or empathize, but I think it's a personality disorder. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #40
I agree. I think he has Aspergers. Jindal provided him an opportunity SDjack Sep 2012 #41
Trees are the right height. grantcart Sep 2012 #51
I don't know. . I think his problem is B Calm Sep 2012 #42
Asperger's is a psychological and not a health issue, but it's still kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #43
sorry, being the CEO of a company like Bain or the Governor cali Sep 2012 #54
Online sources mention lip smacking as a sign of autism aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #46
You mean like this? starroute Sep 2012 #63
And Ryan with the tongue poking the jaw thing is just fucking creepy. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #146
during his speech, looking closing at expressions when trying to be heartfelt, it is like plastered seabeyond Sep 2012 #47
I don't. I think he's a psychopath. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #52
That's a possibility. Of course, he could just have 1%er Syndrome. valerief Sep 2012 #55
"what's wrong with Mitt" hfojvt Sep 2012 #57
No, he's just a prick Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #58
I do too. Although I wonder about that car crash in France, he was in bad shape.. CK_John Sep 2012 #70
As a professional I'll say this: nolabear Sep 2012 #71
Right! Rmoney is just a tool. nt valerief Sep 2012 #79
+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2012 #114
And not every person who has trouble with socializing is autistic. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #118
There are a number of things that could cause Aspergers-like behavior starroute Sep 2012 #81
I doubt it LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #82
He has been taught to respond in this way. BanzaiBonnie Sep 2012 #83
A question for the psych and medical professionals here: can coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #84
Check out my reply upthread. In short, of course. But dx are only dx. nolabear Sep 2012 #102
I truly think you are wrong. And as the mother of a child who is on the spectrum, I think it a cruel Moonwalk Sep 2012 #86
Yep. Look at when he gave that kid in his high school a haircut. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #89
I am not going to let my temper get the best of me here because I know the OP means no harm Robyn66 Sep 2012 #88
It is obvious to me that he does *not* have Aspergers. dawg Sep 2012 #90
Excuse me, my son is an aspie liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #91
THANK YOU Robyn66 Sep 2012 #94
You are so right. dawg Sep 2012 #121
No kidding! liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #132
Thank you! JohnnyLib2 Sep 2012 #126
danke fascisthunter Sep 2012 #137
As an aspie who's sometimes an asshole, Mitt's just the latter n/t DotGone Sep 2012 #93
WHERE IS ODIN??? Robyn66 Sep 2012 #97
Why does he have to have 'something'? Rex Sep 2012 #101
So he chews a lot of gum rock Sep 2012 #103
Nah - his just has never had to consider KT2000 Sep 2012 #107
I'm Autistic, and I am bone weary of having us be confused with sociopaths. KamaAina Sep 2012 #125
What they said. It's 'Asperger's'. Not 'Asshat's'. n/t renie408 Sep 2012 #130
Bingo! elkepelka Sep 2012 #155
Welcome to DU! KamaAina Sep 2012 #161
I think I understand... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #129
Youngest son of priviledged/wealthy parents.. SoCalDem Sep 2012 #131
How about this: Brigid Sep 2012 #133
Not mentally ill; emotionally ill. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #136
This Aspie thinks he's a narcissist. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #138
Hi ODIN!!!!!! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #149
You have got to be kidding me elkepelka Sep 2012 #141
He is an asshole and I seriously doubt it's because of Aspergers SomethingFishy Sep 2012 #144
I'd been thinking that also. marew Sep 2012 #152
I have a son who is high-functioning autistic. It is not that he does not care, it is that he OregonBlue Sep 2012 #153
I think you have Assbooger's Syndrome. be still and know Sep 2012 #154
FFS: not everyone we dislike is a sociopath, a narcissist, has Asperger's, etc REP Sep 2012 #158
I haven't taken this idea seriously until just now. I watched a You Tube clip Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #163
Did Mitt Romney Lie about Causing the accident that Killed Leola Anderson -- a passenger in his car? courseofhistory Sep 2012 #164
Your source please... DURHAM D Sep 2012 #165
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