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Major Nikon

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16. Trump told him that indirectly

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:24 PM

Sep 2019

1) Trump sent Giuliani to Madrid to tell Ukraine to investigate Biden's son

2) Giuliani told the aid in Madrid not just to investigate Biden's son, but also to investigate a trumped up allegation that the Democrat's colluded with Ukraine over the Manafort investigation (as if Manafort wasn't guilty to begin with).

3) Trump withholds aid that's vital to Ukraine and tells them they could improve their position if they completed their "investigation".

We already know all of those things. So what Trump has done, indirectly is tell Ukraine they had better manufacture some dirt on his political enemies, or they won't get their aid. The aid was only released AFTER Trump knew the story was going to break wide open.

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My best guess as to what happened: [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 OP

Until recently, I wished to be a fly on the wall. saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #1

A strong likelihood - "Help me get reelected or I'll let Putin invade" dalton99a Sep 2019 #2

i don't often doubt dweller Sep 2019 #3

IE why Moscow Mitch did a fast about face today, he doesn't want to be associated with Red Don's ... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #4

It's as reasonable as any but with the added perk Control-Z Sep 2019 #5

I read "promise". Trump made a promise to the foreign leader Hamlette Sep 2019 #6

Yes. "Promise" tends to connote a potentially desirable Harker Sep 2019 #7

Cuomo, in interview with Rudy, says Trump was withholding aid to Ukraine. Hamlette Sep 2019 #8

hte amazing thing is that as usual trump believes rw media that has been selling the certainot Sep 2019 #9

"A carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs" hadEnuf Sep 2019 #10

Unfortunately relayerbob Sep 2019 #11

Sanctions have created a headache for him since 2012. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #12

This scenario sounds appallingly plausible. MBS Sep 2019 #13

Expect Some Of That Dirty Work Was Carried Out DallasNE Sep 2019 #14

I'd say you've got a damn good guesser there, Tommy. Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #15

Trump told him that indirectly Major Nikon Sep 2019 #16