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6. Okay. How do you define "enemy" then?

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:46 AM

Sep 2019

A country with which we have diplomatic relations. Give significant financial assistance. Is the subject of unanimous bipartisan Congressional resolutions supporting it and condemning Russian aggression. That has never been identified as an "enemy" under the "Trading with the Enemies Act."

That country is an "enemy"? No its not.

The Supreme Court, in 1863, offered the following explanation of the term "enemy" as used in the Constitution's treason clause: "The term “enemies,” as used in the second clause, according to its settled meaning, at the time the constitution was adopted, applies only to
the subjects of a foreign power in a state of open hostility with us."

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Governor Weld: "Pressuring a foreign country to interfere is treason," Penalty is death [View all] grantcart Sep 2019 OP

And, don't give me this "not a declared war" BS NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #1

U.S. Constitution backs you up Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #3

Okay. How do you define "enemy" then? onenote Sep 2019 #6

Putin has attacked the basis of our democracy Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #17

Weld's comments were about Trump and the Ukraine, not Russia. onenote Sep 2019 #24

Weld's comments were goofy Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #43

I would say it aids Russia and Putin ArcticFox Sep 2019 #53

that may be what Weld was thinking Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #59

it's not what Weld was thinking. onenote Sep 2019 #72

"...engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States." LanternWaste Sep 2019 #62

Hostilities any conflict subject to the laws of war. onenote Sep 2019 #63

Any terrorist is an enemy. WOT, remember? nt. druidity33 Sep 2019 #70

I would say Russia is definitely in a state of open hostility with us. OliverQ Sep 2019 #71

Yet we allow travel and trade. We maintain diplomatic relations. We cooperate on various matters onenote Sep 2019 #73

Russia is an enemy and withholding Ukraine foreign aid helps Russia sharedvalues Sep 2019 #76

Here is the declaration of punishment. rsdsharp Sep 2019 #33

punishment enid602 Sep 2019 #48

No, it's not "supposed" to be death by hanging. onenote Sep 2019 #67

Here, here! triron Sep 2019 #4

Is our relationahip with Ukraine today the same as our relationship with Japan in 1941? onenote Sep 2019 #5

Treason is not going to be attached in this instance grantcart Sep 2019 #13

Have you considered that maybe, sarisataka Sep 2019 #23

+1000!!! KPN Sep 2019 #32

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to elleng Sep 2019 #45

Weld is just confirming.... TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #2

So now is the penalty going to be a sternly worded letter? triron Sep 2019 #7

I just wish the politicians and courts had the nerve not_the_one Sep 2019 #8

Wondered when we would get here. triron Sep 2019 #9

Shall we institute our own sarisataka Sep 2019 #21

Okay, Okay, Okay DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #25

In my view, if there is proof, they pretty much have to or they are guaranteeing that KPN Sep 2019 #36

knr triron Sep 2019 #10

I would love to see that! smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #11

Fry his fat orange ass in the electric chair, and put it on pay per view, we could pay off the natio Meadowoak Sep 2019 #81

I wouldn't call it treason. Definitely abuse of the office though. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #12

Correct but it is a "High Crime" grantcart Sep 2019 #15

Oh, yes. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #16

The definition and evidence requirement of treason is very specific in the constitution grantcart Sep 2019 #18

Plus Ukraine couldn't be described as an enemy, even informally. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #19

Neither could Russia grantcart Sep 2019 #20

Imagine the ad revenue KFC could get, "Trump's last meal" leftstreet Sep 2019 #14

:-) Captain Zero Sep 2019 #26

I think you just won the Internets! colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #29

Keep pushing the possibilitiy of the death penalty. world wide wally Sep 2019 #22

What about sedition Captain Zero Sep 2019 #27

Please don't hold your breath. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #28

Okay. Please proceed! n/t slumcamper Sep 2019 #30

Hehe! Wawannabe Sep 2019 #79

Normally I am opposed to the death penalty but I will waive my objections if he is convicted. LonePirate Sep 2019 #31

That was a nice gesture. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #34

Nope, this is exactly why The Mouth Sep 2019 #35

👍 NurseJackie Sep 2019 #64

That's a hardcore tweet Renew Deal Sep 2019 #37

I like it -- even if it is a pipedream! KPN Sep 2019 #38

Reality is overrated Bonx Sep 2019 #39

Lol ... yes it is ... at least sometimes. KPN Sep 2019 #41

Before you line him up against the wall for the firing squad infullview Sep 2019 #40

Here is the video Renew Deal Sep 2019 #42

I hate to say this but Doreen Sep 2019 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #50

I realize that but what I am saying Doreen Sep 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #54

The Espionage Act might be better suited. CCExile Sep 2019 #46

Bloodthirsty Republicans are no surprise sarisataka Sep 2019 #47

Treason? Hell, we can't even start impeachment proceedings. brutus smith Sep 2019 #49

Brutal Wawannabe Sep 2019 #80

I am totally against the death penalty... Canoe52 Sep 2019 #51

Can somebody copy Miguelito Loveless Sep 2019 #55

K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2019 #57

I think outing a spy to the country where they are spying is treason. Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #58

Well, at least the R's know how to not mince words. I wish our Dems would pick up a few pointers. Crunchy Frog Sep 2019 #60

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2019 #61

It is. triron Sep 2019 #65

Weld is wrong about the penalty. Death is only one of several options. onenote Sep 2019 #66

kick for visibility triron Sep 2019 #68

So now we have one thread here supporting to kill politicians, and another one against it... TomVilmer Sep 2019 #69

I'd love to throw the switch. roamer65 Sep 2019 #74

Like the BZZZZZZZIT from a blue bug light only 1000X louder.... magicarpet Sep 2019 #85

Just said the same thing on "The last Word". triron Sep 2019 #75

How could that be? Been hearing for MONTHS from the anti-impeachment Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #77

String him up! Wawannabe Sep 2019 #78

Oh how I wish Trump got the death penalty. Kablooie Sep 2019 #82

and as he is lined up in front of the firing squad, the nation would yell at the top of their lungs: BigBearJohn Sep 2019 #83

If Republicans were smart, they'd reconsider having a primary William Seger Sep 2019 #84

kick for visibility triron Sep 2019 #86

kick again triron Sep 2019 #87

knr triron Sep 2019 #88