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18. There will be lots of oil available, as the ice melts. Maybe that is why they have for so long

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 03:11 PM

Sep 2012

denied Climate Change.

Arctic oil rush will ruin ecosystem, warns Lloyd's of London

The far north has become a centre of commercial attention as global temperatures rise, causing ice to melt in a region that could hold up to a quarter of the world's remaining hydrocarbon reserves.

Cairn Energy and Shell are among the oil companies that have either started or are planning new wells off the coasts of places such as Greenland and Canada, while Total – currently at the centre of a North Sea gas leak – wants to develop the Shtokman field off Russia.

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Y'all do realize that the Arctic sea ice is going to be GONE within the next administration... [View all] XemaSab Sep 2012 OP

We have our collective head in the sand. CrispyQ Sep 2012 #1

Can't find that graph on the link. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #2

Here's how to find it: XemaSab Sep 2012 #3

Got it thanks dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #5

Two unstoppable trains are racing toward each other on the same track.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #4

"AGW"?? - don't recognize that acronym. 'Arctic Global Warming'? 'Accelerated coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #29

Anthropogenic Global Warming.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #33

Thanks! - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #35

I though it was Anthropogenic . . . hatrack Sep 2012 #36

You're right....But hey, GW does take the form of man nowadays.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #38

What are the expected ramifications of no arctic ice? Kablooie Sep 2012 #6

The energy that goes into melting ice will be free to heat up the planet even faster. Gregorian Sep 2012 #8

There will be lots of oil available, as the ice melts. Maybe that is why they have for so long sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #18

Ice reflects light and heat. sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #30

Even worse, once petroleum use goes down, global dimming will be reduced, allowing even more heat as Gregorian Sep 2012 #45

Water absorbs heat. Ice does not. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #9

^^^^this. It's another tipping point, and potentially a big one. nt magical thyme Sep 2012 #21

That and possibly the release of Ilsa Sep 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Sep 2012 #10

Short term / long term answers: Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #13

Exponential warming increase due to the darker nature of the water once the reflective ice melts FedUpWithIt All Sep 2012 #32

Rising sea levels and lunatica Sep 2012 #46

More droughts worse than this summer, leading to global food riots. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #50

And then there's this (from 3 years ago).... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #63

No one is going to stop doing what they're doing. Gregorian Sep 2012 #7

I see an exponential process. The curve is a best-fit exponential curve. Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #17

I always suspected this. Gregorian Sep 2012 #19

Being a Doomsayer is a lonely profession Hydra Sep 2012 #47

The Curse of Cassandra GliderGuider Sep 2012 #52

A lot of people are waking up, yes. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #57

Passing a tipping point doesn't mean the pendulum swings instantly to the other stop GliderGuider Sep 2012 #65

And why not? I would LOVE for this to be true; it would have helped us GREATLY. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #58

When I was a kid undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #54

I've experienced the same Gregorian Sep 2012 #62

A China flagged freighter this past week made it from China through the NW Passage to Vancouver CK_John Sep 2012 #11

Ummm.... I assume it went from Europe to Vancouver via the NWP? PavePusher Sep 2012 #24

A 28-foot fiberglass sailboat also just made it through hatrack Sep 2012 #37

I think you're referring to China to Iceland via the Northern Route (ie north of Russia) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #44

Imagine 24 hour sun on a ocean of water lovuian Sep 2012 #64

He who dies with the most toys wins, doncha know? Ship of Fools Sep 2012 #12

Well, we had a good run. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #14

And we're still fighting over who gets a bigger piece of the resource pie... ellisonz Sep 2012 #15

Yep.... KoKo Sep 2012 #20

IMO we are already past the point of no return. Motown_Johnny Sep 2012 #16

Not quite. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #56

I know that we don't know, that is why I said it was my opinion. Motown_Johnny Sep 2012 #60

The 1% don't care shawn703 Sep 2012 #22

no they will be the least prepared ThomThom Sep 2012 #25

Said it before, and I'll say it again. I smell a French Revolution scenario brewing... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #26

'Enlightened aristocracy' is (or was) an oxymoron. The aristocracy (2nd estate) in 1789 coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #39

Yes and no.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #41

K & R n/t glinda Sep 2012 #23

And even a Democratic administration won't do too damn much about it villager Sep 2012 #27

Ghost Glacier in Jasper (North, in Canada, of Montana and Washington) fell jtuck004 Sep 2012 #31

So why exactly sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #34

Power issue Hydra Sep 2012 #49

Pretty amazing to see the northwest passage and the northeast passage ice-free HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #40

Stop being so serious and Golden Raisin Sep 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #59

K&R stuntcat Sep 2012 #43

Neither candidate will do much about it. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #48

B-B-But there are no "viable" choices. nt Bonobo Sep 2012 #51

Fuck, there may be open water at the pole next summer. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #53

Not likely. longship Sep 2012 #55

If we could only learn to use all that sea water we would be fine. Sunlei Sep 2012 #61