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FBaggins

(28,773 posts)
60. It's nonsense
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 04:08 PM
Sep 2019

The transcript is almost exactly 2,000 words long. Whoever performed this exercise was talking very fast (~180 words per minute). A normal conversational tone is ~125 WPM (which would make the transcript 16 minutes long), but it slows substantially for two participants over a 5,000 mile connection where neither is particularly fluent in the language. 30 minutes is plausible for this transcript.

but other posters are saying that Zalenski is fluent in English.

Also nonsense. He is "fluent" compared to most Americans' third language... but he was quite halting in his speech even when reading from a script yesterday.

This whole thing is based on a common misunderstanding re: how calls are memorialized. People are assuming that this is like Barr's summary of the Mueller report and just reflects the portion that the administration was willing for us to see. That's incorrect. There's no indication that this is anything but the original classified document.

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A NINETEEN MINUTE GAP!!! [View all] PCIntern Sep 2019 OP
Trump always tries to one-up his predecessors. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #1
The longest gap evah! meadowlander Sep 2019 #18
So 45 can claim the longest *something* in recorded history. forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #41
Hilarious!! Did he think no one would notice? Probably. Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #2
What was released is plenty damning. n/t Hoyt Sep 2019 #3
True, but we're missing the really good stuff True Dough Sep 2019 #7
They need to release the audio tape. Liberal In Texas Sep 2019 #4
Well, according to Rudy Giuliani the WH does phone-records of official WH phone-calls. DetlefK Sep 2019 #6
Dear PCIntern, madaboutharry Sep 2019 #5
Awwww... PCIntern Sep 2019 #59
and, Obama never had an Impeachment inquiry dweller Sep 2019 #8
No transcript was released. It was notes... beachbumbob Sep 2019 #9
Yet it doesn't read like "notes" at all. It read like a Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #14
I heard about this and told my wife and she marked50 Sep 2019 #10
Nope. I ain't playing that game no more PCIntern Sep 2019 #11
+1 H2O Man Sep 2019 #32
Yes, no more excuses, wriggling and/or gaslighting peggysue2 Sep 2019 #40
Agree that releasing the full audio tape is the only reliable marked50 Sep 2019 #56
Especially when the whole document is loaded with Trumpisms and Trumpish spelling errors. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #67
Zelensky speaks English better than Trump Generic Other Sep 2019 #54
So the simple response is to ask the question and get an answer. marked50 Sep 2019 #58
Yet in this document he speaks exactly the same way as Trump. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #68
And what they DID release is damaging by itself. I wonder what the rest said? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #12
19 minutes? sandensea Sep 2019 #13
See? That's how you know it's totally NOT like Watergate gratuitous Sep 2019 #25
Absolutely. Cheeto's nothing like Nixon. sandensea Sep 2019 #35
LOL - I was going to post this image klook Sep 2019 #26
The shamelessness alone should've qualified her for disability benefits sandensea Sep 2019 #28
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 2019 #34
You're welcome. sandensea Sep 2019 #36
Indeed! H2O Man Sep 2019 #37
Yeah. Let's hope it ends the same way for Traitor Tot as it did for Tricky Dick. sandensea Sep 2019 #43
I think he will quit. H2O Man Sep 2019 #45
Could be. sandensea Sep 2019 #52
During the Nixon impeachment days we called this... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #46
Yeah. Republicans went from ampex tapes, to shedders, to pdf files. sandensea Sep 2019 #57
translators? Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #15
Translators??? I've read that Zelensky is fluent in English & needs no translators. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #19
Zelensky addressed the UN today in English luvtheGWN Sep 2019 #38
I just heard him speak. You are correct, fluent! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #39
During the press conference, Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #49
I'm sure they just chatted about the grandkids for that other 19 minutes. Vinca Sep 2019 #16
question evilhime Sep 2019 #17
There could perhaps be other, more incriminating, phonecalls. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #21
Ehh, sounds like an excuse to me Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #61
Where do you see 11 minutes? FBaggins Sep 2019 #20
If you read the transcript they say PCIntern Sep 2019 #22
Where? FBaggins Sep 2019 #27
That's the length of the call PCIntern Sep 2019 #29
Lol! Seriously? FBaggins Sep 2019 #31
Maybe. I had the same reaction at first. While there would ... Whiskeytide Sep 2019 #50
It's nonsense FBaggins Sep 2019 #60
Oh come on, you have got to be talking about another president Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #65
"no indication that this is anything but the original classified document." lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #69
People who do TV or radio programs leftieNanner Sep 2019 #62
See #60 above. That's nonsense FBaggins Sep 2019 #63
It was 19 minutes of "no, you hang up first..." Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #23
Ha! blue-wave Sep 2019 #24
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2019 #30
Just for ironys sake can we call it an 18 minute gap? gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #33
How much of that "missing time" is translations or other administrative coordination? /nt flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #42
Source please? Liberty Belle Sep 2019 #44
If I was forced to talk with him I would get a translator and use Pig-Latin. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #47
It's not a transcript of the call. LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #48
It's not a transcript. It's a memo Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #70
someone said it was because of the time the translators need EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #53
He won't be able to stop himself, he'll have to brag he's more of a criminal than nixon spanone Sep 2019 #55
Re:what's there already appears heavily translated into Trumpspeak, Trumpbrag, Trumpnonsense stuffmatters Sep 2019 #64
only 30 seconds -- the nixon gap was 18 and a half minutes. unblock Sep 2019 #66
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