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62. Good points all. He also likes them around because it makes him look tough by association

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 12:45 PM

Sep 2019

"My Generals", he's said over and over.

Military types also tend to lean heavily (R), and as others have mentioned, are loyal, don't question their superiors etc. Because of this, they are easy pickings for a coup as was perpetrated by Trumputin.

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I think I know what Joseph Maguire's problem is. [View all] Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 OP

no one is always honorable qazplm135 Sep 2019 #1

I have seen far too many retired officers who have acted less than Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #3

ah the "I know people" argument qazplm135 Sep 2019 #10

You have a point that I wish everyone would understand Perseus Sep 2019 #102

I don't think it's fear qazplm135 Sep 2019 #103

I agree. I think he got overwhelmed and did what he was used to doing, going to his superiors. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #4

Maquire has confirmed that his "problem" was implicit Hortensis Sep 2019 #44

His defense of his actions appear to be solely based on so-called Executive Privilege. olegramps Sep 2019 #60

While he was right to not reveal his discussion with the Prez, he can't invoke EP bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #72

other interpretations are out there stopdiggin Sep 2019 #101

Regardless of POTUS or party, the Congress MUST move to reign in Executive Privilege Moostache Sep 2019 #82

It does look that way, doesn't it? Mike 03 Sep 2019 #2

Trump has been very clever about putting less than qualified people Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #5

I don't want to sound like I'm taking MaGuire's side but he seems sincerely Mike 03 Sep 2019 #6

Michael Lewis new book The Fifth Risk details the way Trump's people are sabotaging our agencies. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #95

Those with distinguished military careers Zambero Sep 2019 #7

Thank you. That's an important point. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #17

+1 Mersky Sep 2019 #57

High up military officers have gone along to get along throughout their careers. Otherwise, they tblue37 Sep 2019 #29

Repubs think there should be. Duppers Sep 2019 #105

I think Trump likes appointing military types for because RockRaven Sep 2019 #8

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #18

+1000 a kennedy Sep 2019 #19

The Military RobinA Sep 2019 #42

Totally agree. Well said. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #49

Exactly. KPN Sep 2019 #66

There are exceptions SilasSouleII Sep 2019 #74

My Industrial Management Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #77

By the time Iceland thought of taking us over, we would have surrendered to Canada without a shot. Blue_true Sep 2019 #100

Good points all. He also likes them around because it makes him look tough by association flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #62

If he fancies himself a big-ass Supreme Generalissimo then of course he wants calimary Sep 2019 #96

Gotta keep up with the Jong-Un'ses, after all! flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #97

This is just my opinion, Corgigal Sep 2019 #9

totally agree gopiscrap Sep 2019 #12

sigh qazplm135 Sep 2019 #15

I agree you have all types in the military. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #24

the fact that we elevate military personnel qazplm135 Sep 2019 #26

Oh, yes it is the military's fault. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #37

Explain to me qazplm135 Sep 2019 #54

I am in no way arguing with how the military operates when people Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #67

again gross generalization qazplm135 Sep 2019 #75

As long as they use their military service as a broad-brush expectation of Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #81

lol qazplm135 Sep 2019 #90

Teaching vice to K-12? :D I know it's a typo (assume it is) but I can't figure out Rabrrrrrr Sep 2019 #73

not a typo qazplm135 Sep 2019 #76

Gotcha! I've never seen the word used that way before. Rabrrrrrr Sep 2019 #79

only when used as a preposition... qazplm135 Sep 2019 #89

Interesting insights. Thanks for posting this. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #20

I live in a community that is steep with the kind of officers you describe. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #21

See my post #29 above. I assume you would agree? nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #31

What he had to do, the "shall" directive, is clear eleny Sep 2019 #11

I agree gopiscrap Sep 2019 #13

+1, that's what he's conveying by not saying he's was wrong not to follow the law. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #16

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #48

His refusal to offer a personal opinion... Mike 03 Sep 2019 #14

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #22

Yup, where are the John Dean's who know the facts and call a duck a duck when they see one? KPN Sep 2019 #70

The Military Officer's Oath makes no mention dumbcat Sep 2019 #23

Hmm. I have a soldier friend who posted the oath on her Facebook page. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #25

there are multiple oaths qazplm135 Sep 2019 #28

The Officer's Oath and the Enlisted Oath are different. dumbcat Sep 2019 #30

your friend was posting the enlistment oath for non officers Celerity Sep 2019 #36

Wow! Good information. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #38

no one does, an illegal order is still an illegal order, POTUS or not nt Celerity Sep 2019 #41

But it removes the right-wing excuse altogether. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #45

oh, yes, for sure nt Celerity Sep 2019 #50

With Trump you can not both spike jones Sep 2019 #69

so so true!! nt Celerity Sep 2019 #71

The other problem he has is that he's only the *acting* DNI The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #27

Or if he does the right thing. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #34

Also In His Defense RobinA Sep 2019 #51

I agree. While he must have known the Trump White House is a sewer, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #53

Comey certainly wasn't honorable. milestogo Sep 2019 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #33

Maybe. RobinA Sep 2019 #35

Tribalism is a good thing when bullets are flying. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #39

Absolutely RobinA Sep 2019 #52

We are a smart country. Why has it taken so long to figure this out? Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #64

He was acting, and brand new. And wrong. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #40

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #47

I made this observation earlier The Blue Flower Sep 2019 #43

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #46

Not true. Officers are not trained to take orders above all else dumbcat Sep 2019 #61

I was married to a USMC officer The Blue Flower Sep 2019 #68

Which does not negate what I said. dumbcat Sep 2019 #80

he is the kind of office that would stand by and let the My Lai massacre happen yaesu Sep 2019 #55

The group dynamics of being a republican are the root cause of most current issues rufus dog Sep 2019 #56

He appears to be putting party before country TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #58

Who knew Seals were related to Weasels?? gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #59

Heinleins razor problem Nasruddin Sep 2019 #63

He disgraced himself. Just pathetic. nt SunSeeker Sep 2019 #65

I constantly fight that on this board. lark Sep 2019 #78

This was Colin Powell's problem when he was part of Dubya's administration - a YES MAN onetexan Sep 2019 #83

Thank you, thank you, thank you! old guy Sep 2019 #84

anyone who is a republican already has a problem! subana Sep 2019 #85

It's times like this that I miss John McCain. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #88

true subana Sep 2019 #94

NO. THE MILITARY TAKE NO SUCH OATH !!!!! Mustellus Sep 2019 #86

Michael Flynn - where did his honor go? FakeNoose Sep 2019 #87

Authoritarian organizations are rigid bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #91

Maguire had an obligation to at least inform the Congress that the complaint existed. Jim__ Sep 2019 #92

All military members swear an oath to the Constitution, not the president trc Sep 2019 #93

Best explanation. Thanks. Duppers Sep 2019 #107

I think its simpler than that Perseus Sep 2019 #98

It's looking worse for him as the facts keep coming in. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #99

anyone with critical thinking skills should know Trump did not "win" the election Skittles Sep 2019 #104

He didn't follow the law and he went to the perpetrator. That's all I know about him. NCLefty Sep 2019 #106

Excellent! K&R Duppers Sep 2019 #108