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99. It's looking worse for him as the facts keep coming in.

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 02:34 PM

Sep 2019

Sounds like Trump had a system of burying official records of his conversations. When Maguire yielded to the claim of executive privilege, he became a prima facie example of how Trump has been getting away with it.

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I think I know what Joseph Maguire's problem is. [View all] Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 OP

no one is always honorable qazplm135 Sep 2019 #1

I have seen far too many retired officers who have acted less than Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #3

ah the "I know people" argument qazplm135 Sep 2019 #10

You have a point that I wish everyone would understand Perseus Sep 2019 #102

I don't think it's fear qazplm135 Sep 2019 #103

I agree. I think he got overwhelmed and did what he was used to doing, going to his superiors. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #4

Maquire has confirmed that his "problem" was implicit Hortensis Sep 2019 #44

His defense of his actions appear to be solely based on so-called Executive Privilege. olegramps Sep 2019 #60

While he was right to not reveal his discussion with the Prez, he can't invoke EP bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #72

other interpretations are out there stopdiggin Sep 2019 #101

Regardless of POTUS or party, the Congress MUST move to reign in Executive Privilege Moostache Sep 2019 #82

It does look that way, doesn't it? Mike 03 Sep 2019 #2

Trump has been very clever about putting less than qualified people Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #5

I don't want to sound like I'm taking MaGuire's side but he seems sincerely Mike 03 Sep 2019 #6

Michael Lewis new book The Fifth Risk details the way Trump's people are sabotaging our agencies. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #95

Those with distinguished military careers Zambero Sep 2019 #7

Thank you. That's an important point. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #17

+1 Mersky Sep 2019 #57

High up military officers have gone along to get along throughout their careers. Otherwise, they tblue37 Sep 2019 #29

Repubs think there should be. Duppers Sep 2019 #105

I think Trump likes appointing military types for because RockRaven Sep 2019 #8

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #18

+1000 a kennedy Sep 2019 #19

The Military RobinA Sep 2019 #42

Totally agree. Well said. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #49

Exactly. KPN Sep 2019 #66

There are exceptions SilasSouleII Sep 2019 #74

My Industrial Management Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #77

By the time Iceland thought of taking us over, we would have surrendered to Canada without a shot. Blue_true Sep 2019 #100

Good points all. He also likes them around because it makes him look tough by association flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #62

If he fancies himself a big-ass Supreme Generalissimo then of course he wants calimary Sep 2019 #96

Gotta keep up with the Jong-Un'ses, after all! flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #97

This is just my opinion, Corgigal Sep 2019 #9

totally agree gopiscrap Sep 2019 #12

sigh qazplm135 Sep 2019 #15

I agree you have all types in the military. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #24

the fact that we elevate military personnel qazplm135 Sep 2019 #26

Oh, yes it is the military's fault. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #37

Explain to me qazplm135 Sep 2019 #54

I am in no way arguing with how the military operates when people Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #67

again gross generalization qazplm135 Sep 2019 #75

As long as they use their military service as a broad-brush expectation of Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #81

lol qazplm135 Sep 2019 #90

Teaching vice to K-12? :D I know it's a typo (assume it is) but I can't figure out Rabrrrrrr Sep 2019 #73

not a typo qazplm135 Sep 2019 #76

Gotcha! I've never seen the word used that way before. Rabrrrrrr Sep 2019 #79

only when used as a preposition... qazplm135 Sep 2019 #89

Interesting insights. Thanks for posting this. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #20

I live in a community that is steep with the kind of officers you describe. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #21

See my post #29 above. I assume you would agree? nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #31

What he had to do, the "shall" directive, is clear eleny Sep 2019 #11

I agree gopiscrap Sep 2019 #13

+1, that's what he's conveying by not saying he's was wrong not to follow the law. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #16

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #48

His refusal to offer a personal opinion... Mike 03 Sep 2019 #14

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #22

Yup, where are the John Dean's who know the facts and call a duck a duck when they see one? KPN Sep 2019 #70

The Military Officer's Oath makes no mention dumbcat Sep 2019 #23

Hmm. I have a soldier friend who posted the oath on her Facebook page. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #25

there are multiple oaths qazplm135 Sep 2019 #28

The Officer's Oath and the Enlisted Oath are different. dumbcat Sep 2019 #30

your friend was posting the enlistment oath for non officers Celerity Sep 2019 #36

Wow! Good information. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #38

no one does, an illegal order is still an illegal order, POTUS or not nt Celerity Sep 2019 #41

But it removes the right-wing excuse altogether. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #45

oh, yes, for sure nt Celerity Sep 2019 #50

With Trump you can not both spike jones Sep 2019 #69

so so true!! nt Celerity Sep 2019 #71

The other problem he has is that he's only the *acting* DNI The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #27

Or if he does the right thing. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #34

Also In His Defense RobinA Sep 2019 #51

I agree. While he must have known the Trump White House is a sewer, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #53

Comey certainly wasn't honorable. milestogo Sep 2019 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #33

Maybe. RobinA Sep 2019 #35

Tribalism is a good thing when bullets are flying. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #39

Absolutely RobinA Sep 2019 #52

We are a smart country. Why has it taken so long to figure this out? Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #64

He was acting, and brand new. And wrong. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #40

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #47

I made this observation earlier The Blue Flower Sep 2019 #43

+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #46

Not true. Officers are not trained to take orders above all else dumbcat Sep 2019 #61

I was married to a USMC officer The Blue Flower Sep 2019 #68

Which does not negate what I said. dumbcat Sep 2019 #80

he is the kind of office that would stand by and let the My Lai massacre happen yaesu Sep 2019 #55

The group dynamics of being a republican are the root cause of most current issues rufus dog Sep 2019 #56

He appears to be putting party before country TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #58

Who knew Seals were related to Weasels?? gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #59

Heinleins razor problem Nasruddin Sep 2019 #63

He disgraced himself. Just pathetic. nt SunSeeker Sep 2019 #65

I constantly fight that on this board. lark Sep 2019 #78

This was Colin Powell's problem when he was part of Dubya's administration - a YES MAN onetexan Sep 2019 #83

Thank you, thank you, thank you! old guy Sep 2019 #84

anyone who is a republican already has a problem! subana Sep 2019 #85

It's times like this that I miss John McCain. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #88

true subana Sep 2019 #94

NO. THE MILITARY TAKE NO SUCH OATH !!!!! Mustellus Sep 2019 #86

Michael Flynn - where did his honor go? FakeNoose Sep 2019 #87

Authoritarian organizations are rigid bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #91

Maguire had an obligation to at least inform the Congress that the complaint existed. Jim__ Sep 2019 #92

All military members swear an oath to the Constitution, not the president trc Sep 2019 #93

Best explanation. Thanks. Duppers Sep 2019 #107

I think its simpler than that Perseus Sep 2019 #98

It's looking worse for him as the facts keep coming in. Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #99

anyone with critical thinking skills should know Trump did not "win" the election Skittles Sep 2019 #104

He didn't follow the law and he went to the perpetrator. That's all I know about him. NCLefty Sep 2019 #106

Excellent! K&R Duppers Sep 2019 #108