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not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
33. electronic voting equals republican wins
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 08:01 PM
Sep 2019

I have suggested several times that EVERYONE should photograph their own ballot, regardless of whether it is paper, scan ballot, touch screen, whatever they use.

And be willing to verify who they voted for. Secrecy is the problem, NOT the answer.

I have done it and will do it every election.

Yes, it would be cumbersome to verify, but are we too lazy, too unwilling to tolerate the inconvenience?

If so, we deserve what we get.

I am particularly concerned with the elimination of the voter rolls as a checklist. We must be able to see where we signed to vote, and then be able to prove how we voted. Each district's election office would have to verify the votes. So what if it takes two weeks. Better a delay, than Putin and the traitorous repubs re-electing the turd by electronic cheating.

It would only take a couple of instances of gross irregularities to trigger audits.

If California is doing this, we have already lost.

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Why can't they spit out a damn hard copy too, so the person can verify it and the state has it. WTF. NCLefty Sep 2019 #1
It spits out a "hard copy" which does not show voter intent -- if there is a recount, a diva77 Sep 2019 #2
you cannot confirm that the hard copy matches what is stored Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #17
Yep it should spit out 2 paper reciepts... Volaris Sep 2019 #24
You can't keep a copy of your ballot. Vote buying would be one of the problems. SharonAnn Sep 2019 #36
Because if you can prove (or be coerced to prove) how you voted Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #26
but you cannot verify the machine recorded your vote Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #28
There are far more checks and balances built in than you imagine. Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #29
it is not possible in this reality for voters to observe electrons in voting machines Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #30
So explain to me Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #31
electronic voting is corrupt to begin with Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #32
You haven't answered the question I posed. Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #34
didn't mention error rates -- that's a measurement Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #35
You obviously did not read the links I sent you on the independent testing of the machines. Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #37
the measurements you linked mean nothing! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #38
Putin Ordered These Machines SeaTownBlue Sep 2019 #3
Rethug strategy for decades has been to install rethugs on all elections diva77 Sep 2019 #4
What I would want to know DFW Sep 2019 #5
The LA County Board of Supervisors approved the contract without blinking. The diva77 Sep 2019 #6
Someone ought to do a thorough investigation of each board member's finances DFW Sep 2019 #7
RR/CC is not known for transparency. Can your bro make it to the mock election tomorrow? diva77 Sep 2019 #8
I wish. DFW Sep 2019 #10
electronic "voting" machines shouldn't be anywhere near an election Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #22
They were invented by, made by, regulated by, maintained by, and programmed by.... DFW Sep 2019 #23
a bit of their nefarious history ... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #25
List of all 18 Reps. from LA County - only 1 is a rethug diva77 Sep 2019 #9
And look which one it is! n/t DFW Sep 2019 #12
I know! Right?! One of those "how did that happen???" phenomena diva77 Sep 2019 #16
Can you site your sources for nonverifiable, removing checks and balances, poll books being hackable chowder66 Sep 2019 #11
here are some links diva77 Sep 2019 #13
Thanks!! nt chowder66 Sep 2019 #20
Can you check your own ballot after the machine spits it out? n/t pnwmom Sep 2019 #14
Voters can check a summary sheet, but often don't. Stark says... IndyOp Sep 2019 #15
that DOES NOT verify your vote! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #18
kick -- end electronic "voting"; paper ballots are a must! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #19
Well there goes Adam. Nt lostnfound Sep 2019 #21
All of us in CA can get mail in ballots. There is no need to go to a poling place. You can hand wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #27
electronic voting equals republican wins not_the_one Sep 2019 #33
Supervisor Sheila Kuehl is totally cool with it Brother Buzz Sep 2019 #39
hahahahaha never learn rockfordfile Sep 2019 #40
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