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Caliman73

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45. That is on purpose.

Mon Sep 30, 2019, 06:23 PM

Sep 2019

If people were steeped in the actual history of America rather than on the mythology, we would have movements like they do in France and England with people marching in droves to protest and voting in the 80% and 90% instead of just about 54%. I took accelerated and Advanced Placement history in high school but was still in for minor shock when I took history courses in college. I cannot imagine what they don't teach you in regular old history in grade school and high school.

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I'm an example of what's gone wrong with America in the last 40 years. [View all] maxrandb Sep 2019 OP

K & R n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2019 #1

Reagan was too addled Cartaphelius Sep 2019 #116

reagan killed the fairness doctrine in 87 and it's been downhill since, with 1500 radio stations certainot Oct 2019 #144

it was fucking Ronald Reagan gopiscrap Sep 2019 #2

+1 n/t Hugin Sep 2019 #15

It was Movement Conservatives... JHB Sep 2019 #30

PATCO.... lastlib Sep 2019 #38

That was the big turning point. lpbk2713 Sep 2019 #93

Reagan Democrats bought into his con Martin Eden Sep 2019 #51

Yes seta1950 Sep 2019 #66

Yup. gldstwmn Sep 2019 #67

I agree, it was the Ronald Reagan era... GetRidOfThem Sep 2019 #72

Actually DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #74

Yup, dear old Ronnie madamesilverspurs Sep 2019 #83

Yep. BadgerMom Sep 2019 #90

Yes, times 10000000. we can do it Sep 2019 #94

Got that right! Different Drummer Sep 2019 #107

Ronand Reagan started us down a path we are paying for even to this day. Joe941 Sep 2019 #3

I remember wondering why anyone would vote for such a moral hazard. And do it again. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #16

Sure enough. Took the words right out of my mouth world wide wally Sep 2019 #18

Bingo wryter2000 Sep 2019 #43

Amen. Yours is a familiar journey for many of us. yonder Sep 2019 #4

Recommended. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #5

The Gilded Age has returned luvtheGWN Sep 2019 #32

That is on purpose. Caliman73 Sep 2019 #45

Really nailed it captain queeg Sep 2019 #6

Nowadays, sending your kids to college maxrandb Sep 2019 #7

And at the end of those 4 years, she will be driving for Uber in her downtime from her tblue37 Sep 2019 #9

Unions raise everyone's wages ... aggiesal Sep 2019 #101

Now you hit the point True Blue American Oct 2019 #129

"Suddenly, it was the grocery store clerk or union worker that were the cause of all America's troub Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #8

Gen. X, Gen Y, etc. Doc_Technical Sep 2019 #10

All of us boomers are NOT complicit! llmart Sep 2019 #12

Too many boomers looked the other way. Blue_true Sep 2019 #22

I submit that Reagan appealed to them luvtheGWN Sep 2019 #36

They were faced with a choice... Caliman73 Sep 2019 #60

Don't forget the little matter drmeow Sep 2019 #92

Before then. Nixon and the Chennault Affair. Caliman73 Oct 2019 #145

My anger and hatred drmeow Oct 2019 #154

So true! and so very sad. mountain grammy Sep 2019 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Sep 2019 #63

Exactly! brutus smith Sep 2019 #37

You said it! True Blue American Oct 2019 #131

DITTO Skittles Sep 2019 #24

Amen and thank you. llmart Sep 2019 #28

I too enjoy working with young people Skittles Sep 2019 #33

Young people today True Blue American Oct 2019 #132

agreed Skittles Oct 2019 #135

I am so proud True Blue American Oct 2019 #139

Your sentiment is correct for you individually. I feel the same way. However, my generation -- KPN Sep 2019 #29

Not true. cate94 Sep 2019 #53

Generation has nothing to do with party affiliation. KPN Sep 2019 #109

How many of you Remember Gov Dick Lamb DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #91

Unsubstantiated accusations don't cut it, so please explain whathehell Oct 2019 #128

two things that boomers bought into wholesale stopdiggin Oct 2019 #137

Again, that's just an assertion, one you haven't backed up whathehell Oct 2019 #167

so Reagan won landslide elections stopdiggin Oct 2019 #168

Lol..I see you've 'moved the goal posts' from Boomers bearing full responsibility whathehell Oct 2019 #169

Boomers voted for Reagan in large numbers stopdiggin Oct 2019 #170

They voted for him in FEWER numbers than other demographics, so. whathehell Oct 2019 #171

The boomers were also the Hippi generation lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #34

At this point, Gen X is complicit also TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #40

And then some loyalsister Oct 2019 #163

You know, many/most Boomer women never had "the good times" dawg day Sep 2019 #70

Thanks for your post. Nt raccoon Sep 2019 #88

Good post; you are so right. Nt spooky3 Sep 2019 #105

The squeeze was on the boomers and "greatest" generation, too. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2019 #111

Yes, pretty much from 1950 to 1970-- dawg day Sep 2019 #113

When I was a recruiter for the Navy in the late eighties/early nineties maxrandb Sep 2019 #114

I liked your point that the wages haven't kept up at all dawg day Oct 2019 #125

Well said.. thank you. mountain grammy Sep 2019 #120

Amen! LittleGirl Oct 2019 #136

This Boomer RobinA Sep 2019 #95

but how many of the people you graduated with stopdiggin Oct 2019 #138

Me too. It's a regional thing too. dawg day Oct 2019 #141

I'm coming out of retirement to say KNOCK IT OFF! Warpy Oct 2019 #134

The population of the USA bought it hook, line and sinker. AJT Sep 2019 #11

12.60 then is like 40 or so now. nt msongs Sep 2019 #13

about $35, but still. Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #48

I remember hearing some incredibly well-paid anchorman a couple years ago call an $11/hr job-- dawg day Sep 2019 #80

All this while the country got much richer Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #87

I remember the time clearly. DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #96

trace it to Rotten Ronnie and the Newt Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #14

DURec leftstreet Sep 2019 #17

Since the republicans decided that anyone not in the 1% were simply useless eaters. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #19

What happened? Blue_true Sep 2019 #20

Right with you extvbroadcaster Sep 2019 #21

K & R Still Sensible Sep 2019 #23

For everyone blaming Reagan: He was an actor who knew how to read lines. erronis Sep 2019 #25

Reagan started this orangecrush Sep 2019 #26

That was a lot of money in those days. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #27

Right on, brother. trof Sep 2019 #31

I think there was a lot of bad press about unions in the 60's to late 70's. Ligyron Sep 2019 #58

True True Blue American Oct 2019 #130

K & R. Great post. And spot on. We need to fix things -- starting by electing a D to the WH, KPN Sep 2019 #35

What you said, I agree. saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #42

1980 - Ronald Reagan paleotn Sep 2019 #39

How bout those grocery chain Waltons? jalan48 Sep 2019 #41

Excellent post. Thank you. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #44

Unreal, WOW! Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #46

KnR Hekate Sep 2019 #47

Fantastic! Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #49

Pensions were replaced with 401k SallyHemmings Sep 2019 #50

Oh, old buddy, let us share this. blm Sep 2019 #52

Share away maxrandb Oct 2019 #158

Thanks. blm Oct 2019 #164

Great post. I'm in a much more fortunate position than most spooky3 Sep 2019 #54

I have no doubt that if Trump serves another term, he will find a way to dip Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #55

THAT won't be the half of it......... DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #99

Great post njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #56

There was a point when "hard work" became "for losers" dawg day Sep 2019 #57

I realized our country was falling apart when a client told me MaryMagdaline Sep 2019 #59

So well written, maxrandb.. I cried.. Cha Sep 2019 #61

the counter culture was all but dead and christofasicsts began their campaign with Reagan. Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #62

Reagan wrecked the middle class The Wizard Sep 2019 #64

In 1980, a friend was making 38k a year as an embalmer backtoblue Sep 2019 #65

that seems like a lot of money for a grocery store in 1981 Skittles Sep 2019 #68

I made $13.30 at Kroger in the Deli in 1982. KentuckyWoman Sep 2019 #78

I must have been in the wrong business! Skittles Sep 2019 #79

It was Big Bear Groceries maxrandb Sep 2019 #85

I have never received "birthday pay" EVER Skittles Sep 2019 #86

Yep, we got 8 hours pay for our birthday, whether you worked that day or not maxrandb Sep 2019 #100

I worked at a union grocery store through high school & college dflprincess Sep 2019 #118

That is $29.32 in today's money Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #151

Well said. I hear you! Newest Reality Sep 2019 #69

I agree with you, and we need to take the country back. yardwork Sep 2019 #71

I love this over-simplified blame game Sarg Sep 2019 #73

Yeah, it was the 80s where the decline began in earnest, though I'd PatrickforO Sep 2019 #75

thank you KentuckyWoman Sep 2019 #76

Mom was born in 1930. She's visiting with us right now maxrandb Sep 2019 #108

St. Ronnie the Raygun*, the Great Bullshit Artist... Raster Sep 2019 #77

Reagan was already DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #106

I would not be surprised if the heart of a healthy person wasn't... Raster Oct 2019 #143

Hey Raster DENVERPOPS Oct 2019 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Sep 2019 #81

$12.60 in 1981? TimeToGo Sep 2019 #82

Yep, if I'm lying I'm crying maxrandb Sep 2019 #103

🤓 TimeToGo Sep 2019 #115

Yep, my mom cried when I told her I was quitting Big Bear to join the Navy maxrandb Sep 2019 #117

I remember when a minimum wage job in the mid eighties Doreen Sep 2019 #84

Yes Reagan was the catalyst for almost everything dugog55 Sep 2019 #89

I applaud DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #110

It wasn't just Ray-Gun maxrandb Oct 2019 #157

In 1981 I made 3.35 per hour. Mosby Sep 2019 #98

Big Bear was a Columbus Ohio institution maxrandb Sep 2019 #104

We were always taught that hard work pays off in the end . . . but it doesn't. Vinca Sep 2019 #102

What happened was Ronald Reagan and Reagonomics....I lived it too. joanbarnes Sep 2019 #112

Our own party line in 2016 was, "those jobs aren't coming back" hughee99 Sep 2019 #119

Great lecture by Elizabeth Warren... mudstump Sep 2019 #121

Can confirm vercetti2021 Sep 2019 #122

Great post, thanks! nt GReedDiamond Sep 2019 #123

K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #124

Ronald Reagan hit America, and she's still suffering the reprocussions! napi21 Oct 2019 #126

I was at a family party. a la izquierda Oct 2019 #127

Reagan started it, that's why he's deified by the repugs. captain queeg Oct 2019 #133

Well said. Mike Niendorff Oct 2019 #140

One thing many may miss; you joined the military. Still a GREAT option for so many of us. oldsoftie Oct 2019 #142

Reagan happened in the 80s. ConnorMarc Oct 2019 #146

Here's a good recap of what happened to Big Bear maxrandb Oct 2019 #147

this. right here. was the beginning of the end... Locrian Oct 2019 #148

REAGAN busting the Unions JCMach1 Oct 2019 #149

I recall the tech workers, during the boom The Mouth Oct 2019 #150

Being Unable to Get a College Education w/o Amassing $80K or More in Debt Has Been a Big Factor Indykatie Oct 2019 #152

Greed. That's what's rotten. Everything for profit. CrispyQ Oct 2019 #155

1980s. The coming to power of the Age of Greed. MarcA Oct 2019 #156

It's disappointing how many Democrats and union workers voted for Reagan IronLionZion Oct 2019 #159

Well said! Ohioboy Oct 2019 #160

Thank you for this democrank Oct 2019 #161

Bob Iger CEO of Disney asked by Amanpour to defend his pay SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2019 #162

Wealth has been stolen from labor since the 1980s Yavin4 Oct 2019 #165

Was a member of the URW back in the 70s before it joined the USW. aka-chmeee Oct 2019 #166