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KharmaTrain

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8. It's Not A Win...

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:30 AM

Sep 2012

...if its just President Obama winning and the Democrats not only don't retake the House but lose the Senate...and that's my biggest concern right now.

Yes, Rmoney and his ilk can win...especially if Democrats think that this election is in the bag. There needs to be a very big push from here on out for ALL Democratic candidates. An Obama victory with a rushpublican house/senate would be a real disaster for all of us...almost as much as Bishop Mittens winning...

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If you believe that Obama will win handily, you haven't been paying attention [View all] cali Sep 2012 OP

No rec from me, Cali. Not this time. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #1

yes, those are items of concern and a factor cali Sep 2012 #3

It maybe be a factor, but not nearly as much of one as some may think..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #9

You have it precisely right, IMO. randome Sep 2012 #32

We need to realize the reality... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #86

Partly agreed, but there are a few things I need to say. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #117

I honestly don't know anyone who believes that... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #2

take a look around GD. cali Sep 2012 #10

I hear what you're saying but I don't see anyone Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #78

Yep, I see it the same way. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #120

I agree!! GallopingGhost Sep 2012 #76

I endorse what Liberal_Stalwary71 is saying about working very hard! LongTomH Sep 2012 #104

College students often don't get around to registering - send them gottaregister.com flamingdem Sep 2012 #4

What do you suggest that any of us do? The 2010 losses, we were told, was a "wake-up call." AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #5

Outstanding post. Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2012 #13

Just another "Invisible Obama" act emulatorloo Sep 2012 #63

So, you don't like Obama's appointees. Why post this now? Are you staying home or voting Rmoney? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #20

"Are you staying home or voting Rmoney?" AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #82

Vote for Obama and then work to improve the situation if you don't like him. Or ... Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #93

Ya know I get so sick of seeing this... one_voice Sep 2012 #119

Dems out there know more than some folks here and the KoKo Sep 2012 #59

A deluded post frazzled Sep 2012 #84

Your tag line indicates ""I have no enemies and no hatred. Hatred can rot away ..." Yet you post AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #87

Voters always sit out midterms, especially the younger ones frazzled Sep 2012 #97

Believe it or not... jonthebru Sep 2012 #103

I am one who is far worse off now than I was four years ago (through no fault of coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #115

Obama will win Biafran Sep 2012 #6

Welcome to DU! And DO NOT get complacent! calimary Sep 2012 #128

absolutely agree - I think it will be a nail-biter DrDan Sep 2012 #7

It's Not A Win... KharmaTrain Sep 2012 #8

I've come to view things slightly differently. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #11

Oh look, another 'let's dispirit Obama voters!' post. Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #12

rec +1,000,000 SemperEadem Sep 2012 #22

DI, I fully understand what Cali is saying. I respectfully ask you to listen to my reasoning... davidpdx Sep 2012 #28

That's fine. I didn't get that at all from cali's tone... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #31

I agree that Cali could have been more supportive in the OP davidpdx Sep 2012 #55

Calling anyone who believes Obama could win by a sizable margin 'foolish' is... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #108

I'm Wondering How People Iggy Sep 2012 #42

Good question... davidpdx Sep 2012 #49

He won NC by only 14,000 votes. Our unemployment rate... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2012 #70

I'm not at all convinced we're likely to win NC again, either. AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #123

Yes one can. For instance, if Rs completely take over this state in November, WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2012 #135

I don't think it's a lock, but Obama won Ohio by 262,000 votes in '08...not 107,000. Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #109

Our cadre of fatalists. JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #29

The only thing I know for sure is that it's going to be ugly. AtomicKitten Sep 2012 #14

HUH? Iggy Sep 2012 #41

Ever heard of True The Vote? AtomicKitten Sep 2012 #88

All the crap they are threatening to do is illegal in CA. Webster Green Sep 2012 #98

It is voter intimidation pure and simple. AtomicKitten Sep 2012 #101

Between Turbineguy Sep 2012 #15

Agreed. And all of those items are very real. KaryninMiami Sep 2012 #27

And you bring up a good point that no one has in this thread davidpdx Sep 2012 #51

My father in law thought Clint Eastwood was a laugh riot Berlum Sep 2012 #16

The election will be won in Ohio and Florida Auggie Sep 2012 #17

I think Obama has a good chance.. sendero Sep 2012 #18

Your concern is duly noted Atman Sep 2012 #19

I dissagree... Daayyummmboi Sep 2012 #21

All Good Points, However Iggy Sep 2012 #40

He is still strong with one demographic- ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #43

People are out there talking but if the sit home one their hands thats a problem.... Historic NY Sep 2012 #23

Obama will win decisively malaise Sep 2012 #24

Agreed IL Lib Sep 2012 #96

well, OBVIOUSLY you are right and all but the deaf, dumb and blind know it already Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #25

The voter supression in PA is going to be a factor. There is no way that PA can handle the AlinPA Sep 2012 #26

I still believe MFM008 Sep 2012 #30

I think anytime you've got Rove working behind the scenes with unlimited $$$ at his disposal deutsey Sep 2012 #33

Yeah. Rove. Bah! randome Sep 2012 #39

Yeah, but we'll be digging out from the rubble of his "successes" for some time deutsey Sep 2012 #50

Totally agree with you on that. Take no chances. randome Sep 2012 #54

Correct, I've Seen This Movie Before Iggy Sep 2012 #34

Gore had a reason for keeping his distance from Clinton Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #44

Nope, I Disagree Iggy Sep 2012 #46

Clinton might have been elected twice, Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #48

You open with more characterizations of others. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #62

Well, the nonstop barrage of rightwing media bias.. ananda Sep 2012 #35

After my experience in Wisconsin, I see election prognostications darkly HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #36

Quit with the 'I know better than everyone else', bullshit. You're usually better than this. Dawgs Sep 2012 #37

what's the purpose of this? bigtree Sep 2012 #38

I don't think the purpose of the OP is "defeatist." It's more exhortation to greater effort. leveymg Sep 2012 #52

thanks for answering, leveymg bigtree Sep 2012 #57

You make a good point about pissing in people's wheaties fishwax Sep 2012 #71

I re-read the op bigtree Sep 2012 #85

I don't really disagree with you about the OP fishwax Sep 2012 #94

I'm not really seeing that exhortation part of the OP. Chorophyll Sep 2012 #68

There are two parts we are misjudging.... jimlup Sep 2012 #45

3.) Obama will eat Rmoney's lunch as a campaigner. bemildred Sep 2012 #47

As a campaigner yes....but getting youth to the polls....and dealing with KoKo Sep 2012 #60

Don't forget the demographics, either. randome Sep 2012 #67

Having watched the sea change when Raygun came in, I know it can happen. bemildred Sep 2012 #69

I'm deleting what I wrote I misread Reagan as Ryan... Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #74

Well, I missed them, so we're cool. nt bemildred Sep 2012 #75

Concern noted. n/t theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #53

You may not agree with what Cali is saying but don't tell a Good DUer WI_DEM Sep 2012 #56

thanks for the kind words, WD cali Sep 2012 #73

I think people are sick of the "concern" posts. Even from good duers. Logical Sep 2012 #83

This is the credited response. n/t theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #89

The polls, look to polls of elections past to KNOW what they are worth...which is not much. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #58

Obama will probably win. Which means he might lose. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2012 #61

Obama will win. Electoral votes are the only thing that counts, MineralMan Sep 2012 #64

I think many of the religious right will jest stay home or not vote for any president left is right Sep 2012 #65

Republicans always vote. Always. They must be out-voted. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #66

I actually do feel that Obama will win handily rock Sep 2012 #72

We need to double down on registering new Dem Voters sellitman Sep 2012 #77

The truth should always be front and center. randome Sep 2012 #79

I'd hate too see something like this on November 8 tabasco Sep 2012 #80

My favorite lines here are, "pay no attention to the polls" Capt. Obvious Sep 2012 #81

i disagree Cali, i think Obama will win handily.. my fear is the Senate and House... dionysus Sep 2012 #90

Recent polls are showing a tighter race so It's getting a little scary TNLib Sep 2012 #91

Electoral Vote Math: Obama 193, Romney 0 ProSense Sep 2012 #92

Good point! AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #125

Well Cali, agree, but it will be quite a blow-out. A Carteresque type blowout. Safetykitten Sep 2012 #95

FYI, someone tried to shut you down instead of debating you. Jury told 'em to sit and spin. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #99

I was Juror #1 Terra Alta Sep 2012 #100

Not a very good ProSense Sep 2012 #105

SK posts this bullshit consistently. Puglover Sep 2012 #111

A bit Gloomy Gus, don't you think? frazzled Sep 2012 #102

Obama is going to lose NY? Webster Green Sep 2012 #106

And MA apparently. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #118

Must suck for you seeing Rmoney and Ryan pissing it all away. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #126

LOL! I am bookmarking this post to repost on election day. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #130

I think you're wrong. cali Sep 2012 #134

There's no way Romney is going to win. Alduin Sep 2012 #107

He's A 3-2 Favorite At The Betting Sites DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #110

The economic numbers for August, September and October may decide it andym Sep 2012 #112

Hate to believe it goclark Sep 2012 #113

The complacency is troubling, if only because of the effects down ticket Prism Sep 2012 #114

No way they can win legitimately. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #116

We get it. You're worried, nervous and concerned. So what are you gonna do about it? Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #121

I totally understand where you're coming from - lynne Sep 2012 #122

yes, remember how sure DU was that Dems would win that Wisconsin election Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #124

I remember how Bush stole the election a couple of times nolabels Sep 2012 #132

I found that so painful cali Sep 2012 #133

One way or the other, we need every single vote! n/t BeeBee Sep 2012 #127

I KNOW Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #129

Rec DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #131