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Jedi Guy

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19. Your point about thinking one is in danger vs. being in danger relies on hindsight, though.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:04 PM
Oct 2019

There was an instance where a man who'd been acting erratically assumed a "shooter's stance" and pointed a metallic object at police officers with both hands. Not surprisingly, they opened fire and he was killed. The metallic object turned out to be an e-cigarette.

Sure, they weren't in any real danger, but they had no way of knowing it was an e-cigarette and not a gun when it was pointed at them.

Sometimes an objective measure of danger can't be established until after the fact. That's why there's the "reasonable person" concept in law. Based on what was known at that moment, is the action reasonable?

In this case, rather than going out to confront a supposed relative with gun in hand, he could have called the police and remained indoors. It might've turned out to be the kind of wacky misunderstanding they'd laugh about years later.

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People should never, ever surprise anyone in our over-armed country. Someone from a tblue37 Oct 2019 #1
That's horrible what happened. nt Catherine Vincent Oct 2019 #2
Dangerous people with guns are dangerous jberryhill Oct 2019 #4
Would they be dangerous if they didn't have a gun? JonLP24 Oct 2019 #22
Less dangerous with no gun - somebody with a knife would have a few more seconds to lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #24
I wasn't stabbed when I freightened her coming home in the middle of the night JonLP24 Oct 2019 #25
Perfect example! lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #31
It's a mystery why dangerous people like this are not charged or locked up jberryhill Oct 2019 #3
I totally agree. CrispyQ Oct 2019 #5
I don't know what makes this any different from Amber Guyger jberryhill Oct 2019 #8
It's hard to believe he truly felt threatened Mariana Oct 2019 #28
indeed. really, a very strong burden should be on the shooter to get it right. unblock Oct 2019 #6
Your point about thinking one is in danger vs. being in danger relies on hindsight, though. Jedi Guy Oct 2019 #19
i agree that my brief summary doesn't capture all scenarios unblock Oct 2019 #34
Agree. Carrying a loaded gun around is crazy and an excuse to sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #14
And if Mr. Dennis were black? Handcuffed and escorted to a squad car, with LuckyLib Oct 2019 #7
The gun lobby talked a lot of state legislatures into dropping struggle4progress Oct 2019 #9
"The sheriff says anybody who is religious should "pray" yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2019 #10
Gun humpers gonna hump... ExciteBike66 Oct 2019 #11
No, it was NOT a "tragic accident" it was absolutely ON PURPOSE! Coventina Oct 2019 #12
And the son-in-law must have had a fond relationship with his FIL, since he went tblue37 Oct 2019 #18
Thanksgiving in that house -- "Thank you Jesus for mah guns" Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #20
Since when are accidents exempt from prosecution? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #13
It's not an accident if you go outside with a gun intending to shoot someone jberryhill Oct 2019 #23
and if he hadn't had a gun? What? A happy surprise. defacto7 Oct 2019 #15
Even having a gun, he should have stayed his ass inside Mariana Oct 2019 #27
Hooray guns!! Initech Oct 2019 #16
"You can't really say anything against Mr. Dennis for doing what he did." Really?! Neema Oct 2019 #17
AGREED. milestogo Oct 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2019 #21
Best just to stay out of Florida Blecht Oct 2019 #26
There are days I am embarrassed to admit Phoenix61 Oct 2019 #30
In his state of mind, would he have shot his SIL at the front door without the surprise? bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #32
Guns I_have_had_enough Oct 2019 #33
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