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grantcart

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63. I predict 8-10

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:04 PM

Oct 2019

Lamar Alexander and Richard Burr are retiring and are highly likely to vote for

There are Senators from Blue states facing an election this cycle that will have to vote for removal to keep their seats.

Romney and a few others are in red states with a majority of Rep who are against Trump and want to keep their reputations.

There are lots of Mormons like Flake and they care heavily concentrated in ID, UT, AZ, CO.

In AZ McSally will lose Republicans if she does support removal and lose independents if she doesn't so she may calculate that 10 years from now she will be in a better position by standing up for principle

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Are Hopes too High for Convicting Trump? [View all] Tennessee Hillbilly Oct 2019 OP

if that is the case, our "Democracy" is broken. Failed. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #1

if that happens it is the moral and political failure of the GOP not our democracy. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #3

agreed, but the effect/impact is the same. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #4

My only expectation has been impeached, he will have to removed by election unless something changes Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #2

I think there is little hope of convicting him soon NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #5

I would love to see him in jail but I would also be thrilled with him just resigning in disgrace. honest.abe Oct 2019 #6

He will be convicted only Big Blue Marble Oct 2019 #7

This is the correct answer Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #19

The Trump voters are very loyal...we can see the GOP is not turning on him or the elected Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #27

This... if his poll numbers or the economy tanks.. that will take him down. Otherwise we MUST Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #35

This I_have_had_enough Oct 2019 #52

Let Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOP piss on the Founders... Anon-C Oct 2019 #8

If Trump wins and we lose the House...what makes you think we will be a functioning nation? Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #26

I do not think that losing the House is a foregone conclusion if Trump's Impeached and not convicted Anon-C Oct 2019 #50

I didn't say it was but making 40 moderates from Trump voting districts vote for it...is Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #55

I agree, but that die has been cast Celerity Oct 2019 #62

We just need the 6 republican senators at risk on record support Trumps treason, take over the .... uponit7771 Oct 2019 #9

he will never face an impeachment trial in the Senate but that is not a bad thing for beachbumbob Oct 2019 #10

i expect they would hold a trial. unblock Oct 2019 #12

the problem with an actual trial trump MUST BE DISPOSED, no way to avoid that beachbumbob Oct 2019 #13

who says donnie must be "disposed"? unblock Oct 2019 #14

you think a trump on trial would remain silent? beachbumbob Oct 2019 #17

of course he'll rant from the white house lawn. unblock Oct 2019 #36

They don't hold a trial but have one vote period ASAP and then declare Trump is not guilty. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #24

We don't have enough Democrats in the states we need in order to beat Trump in the Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #25

Whether he is convicted or not is not the point... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #11

And if he wins the election in 20 and we lose the house? I do no consider Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #21

Got That Right RobinA Oct 2019 #40

That is how I see it. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #58

Impeachment makes both of those things *LESS* likely, not more likely. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #44

You haven't explained how this makes it more likely we keep the house and he loses. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #59

It is not 'right' to give Trump another term and endanger the house by impeaching with no shot Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #23

We know that edhopper Oct 2019 #15

I don't see the point of that...the reason he wants a vote is to make the moderates from Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #22

I don't see him winning edhopper Oct 2019 #49

He only needs three states...WI,MI and PA. He could win. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #56

And we can look what happened in those States in 2018 edhopper Oct 2019 #61

I have zero hope that he will be convicted. Codeine Oct 2019 #16

No Republican called for conviction even after he broke the law on TV yesterday. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #18

Anyone who believes there is a 5% chance of conviction sarisataka Oct 2019 #20

Someone probably hates Trump more than you Clash City Rocker Oct 2019 #28

I don't think the Repugs will vote to convict. OTOH Vogon_Glory Oct 2019 #29

It'll be like with Nixon-- dawg day Oct 2019 #30

You and I hold this minority view. Big Blue Marble Oct 2019 #34

Romney just came out with a quite sharp criticism- dawg day Oct 2019 #46

Nixon's approval rating plummeted. I don't think Trump's will. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #57

Not while McConnell holds the senate. Arthur_Frain Oct 2019 #31

It's more about throwing daylight on the lawlessness, and keeping 45 on the defensive... VOX Oct 2019 #32

At this point absolutely!! We cannot allow them to daily break the law and stand idly by Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #37

Precisely. Are we a nation of laws, or not? Is America a functioning democracy, or not? VOX Oct 2019 #41

People with Red State Senators need to take more visible action The empressof all Oct 2019 #33

This!! Everyone that draws breath and can, must be involved Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #38

I believe local action is the key The empressof all Oct 2019 #42

Republican politicians are caught between their base and ... Whiskeytide Oct 2019 #39

Yesterday, I asked what it would take to get a conviction: Garrett78 Oct 2019 #43

It's all about power and 2020. If throwing Trump under the bus Hortensis Oct 2019 #45

The bottom line: kpete Oct 2019 #47

Time to getting the news out about how dirty the Republican senators are. Efilroft Sul Oct 2019 #53

IT DOES MATTER HOW STRONG THE EVIDENCE IS... lame54 Oct 2019 #48

Yup. It would take 20 Senate Republicans. Not going to happen still_one Oct 2019 #51

He will be severely wounded if a majority votes against hum but not the grantcart Oct 2019 #54

I predict no GOP Senator will vote for conviction...no one...period. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #60

I predict 8-10 grantcart Oct 2019 #63

There is another dynamic at play grantcart Oct 2019 #64