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TexasBushwhacker

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82. And "legal" workers aren't interested in doing back breaking

Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:58 AM

Oct 2019

SEASONAL work outdoors. Most don't want to work in slaughterhouses or dairy farms either. They don't want to do landscaping or construction work in August when it's 100°. So we depend on foreign workers. Over half of agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. If you eat, you support illegal immigration.

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Just visited a fruit stand run by a farmer friend. [View all] Thunderbeast Oct 2019 OP

That's awful, going broke growing our food. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #1

US food is so cheap people are obese. It's cheap because that gives Big Agra competitive edge. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #7

I am going to suggest... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #17

Yes, types of food cause over-eating. Poor nutrition makes body crave nutrition, hence eat to excess Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2019 #21

Yep, 12 oz. is the small size now. klook Oct 2019 #68

What we eat is very important ... Silver1 Oct 2019 #23

Birds of a Feather... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #24

Frankenfood ... Silver1 Oct 2019 #98

Thanks! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #100

Soy Doremus Oct 2019 #49

Thank you. klook Oct 2019 #69

You're lucky Silver1 Oct 2019 #99

And 20 million Americans have thyroid disease TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #81

Yes, and ... Silver1 Oct 2019 #97

On the list of foods to avoid, soy is not something I'd worry about. Doremus Oct 2019 #105

Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Silver1 Oct 2019 #108

MSG causes an immediate reaction for me UpInArms Oct 2019 #84

MSG gives me a strange kind of a headache FakeNoose Oct 2019 #95

Me too Silver1 Oct 2019 #101

Here's some info on high fructose corn syrup UpInArms Oct 2019 #104

Thank you for adding this important, factually-based information. nt phylny Oct 2019 #35

Agreed. The food pyramid is bullshit. Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #43

Commercial products are enhanced to make people crave them more. Blue_true Oct 2019 #44

Yeah, I've been doing more homemade stuff myself. Crowman2009 Oct 2019 #66

I agree. forgotmylogin Oct 2019 #90

Most big corporate farms are owned and run by families Kaleva Oct 2019 #26

But nobody would confuse those with "family farms" of OP. The latter have a tough time competing. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #61

The large family farms are driving the small family farms out of business Kaleva Oct 2019 #75

That's an overly broad brush you are tarring THEM ALL with: "Nazi collaborators". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #76

Do we not lump all members of the NRA in the same boat? Kaleva Oct 2019 #77

Some do. Now you are doing it again with "we". Please drop the binary all-or-nothing thinking. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #78

When I say "we", I am refering to what the majority here seems to think. Kaleva Oct 2019 #106

Remember the 80's and Farm Aid??????? DENVERPOPS Oct 2019 #88

There are about 167 family farms in Wi. that gross 5 million or more each year Kaleva Oct 2019 #102

No but I get the impression that when "corporate farms" are mentioned, Kaleva Oct 2019 #107

And Walmart is run by the Waltons NickB79 Oct 2019 #103

Everyone I went to college with that farms full time are family owned GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #29

It's all about the romanticism to some that pine for the mom and pop family farm. Blue_true Oct 2019 #48

Farming is as romantic as making septic tanks! GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #53

Economy of scale is the lead pipe in any industry, you name it. Blue_true Oct 2019 #55

Doesn't it make sense if you inject animals with stuff to make them gain weight Alwaysna Oct 2019 #57

The theory is that by time you eat the food, the injected substance have been metabolized. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #62

Thanks for sharing this. I engaged in a post trying to explain that small farmers are NOT the ones hlthe2b Oct 2019 #2

it's another transfer of wealth to the wealthy Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #4

Millionaire Senator Grassley got tariff relief. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #63

Thanks for the anecdote... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #3

I've had 3 people call my house in the past 3 weeks asking if I needed any work done around politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2019 #16

I hate to say it, but didn't we predict that? Closed foreign markets & lack of labor. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #5

+1 ck4829 Oct 2019 #73

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #6

So sad. We need more fresh, affordable produce and less mass produced processed foods. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #8

Sorry, but my family history does not support this narrative. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #34

While what you say is largely true, Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #46

Not buying it. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #50

Regarding your Orlando example, Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #51

You, like me grew up in the South. Blue_true Oct 2019 #52

LOL! The fanciest brunch I went to was Dinner on the Ground GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #54

Why do you think they can't be persuaded to eat healthier when there has been such smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #56

It's cultural. And now political! GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #58

I have a friend who works in cardiology in South Carolina. GoneOffShore Oct 2019 #60

Your post presents an additional food problem & doesn't actually contradict the post you replied to. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #64

There is a point past which soldierant Oct 2019 #91

I think I can be overcome. But no time soon. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #92

Met a man........ MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #9

Why does he have to use underpaid immigrant labor? Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #31

He DOES pay fair labor wages.......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #37

I'm not blaming him. He is a victim of our insane food production policies. Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #39

Yep! MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #65

Just can't agree. At all. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #38

Today the USDA and Ag Dept. pay subsidies to the Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #41

Britain has not been self sufficient in food production since around 1815 GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #47

Things have changed considerably since the 1980s. Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #94

Anger? I have no anger. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #96

And the admin doesn't give a damn - Read about Sec of Ag statement at the Wisc. Dairy Expo salin Oct 2019 #10

+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #30

I'm having visions of the 1930's. Oh, I hope not. defacto7 Oct 2019 #11

Make sure to blame Republicans sharedvalues Oct 2019 #12

Many of the farmers are Republicans Kaleva Oct 2019 #28

Good. Blame Trump and elite Republicans sharedvalues Oct 2019 #33

Depending how widespread the local news or trade news covers Ag Secretary's response to this crisis salin Oct 2019 #42

I can imagine a lot of Republicans shocked about the laws of cause and effect operating in this way. patphil Oct 2019 #13

Trump brings farmers to their knees keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #14

And then he raises them up. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #15

I live fairly close to a rural area and heard stories like this last summer too. llmart Oct 2019 #18

My pears trees are fruitless this year, taken out by 40 below temps last winter or late frost. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #20

So sorry to hear about this but I'm not surprised. There's so much more in store for us all. littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #22

trump screwed the farmers both ways Marthe48 Oct 2019 #25

Where are those republican voters so full of angst they voted for a piece of shit? Afromania Oct 2019 #27

What state? tavernier Oct 2019 #32

I live in a rural area of liberalhistorian Oct 2019 #36

Yep. My thoughts as well. kairos12 Oct 2019 #59

If you are a farmer against government programs you are an idiot GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #40

Guess who they vote for? Drahthaardogs Oct 2019 #45

Well not all of them! Crowman2009 Oct 2019 #67

Not voting for Hillary was voting for Trump. Screw those guys, too. marble falls Oct 2019 #70

K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #71

Vote the GOP Bums out! UCmeNdc Oct 2019 #72

Whatever Trump touches DIES! usaf-vet Oct 2019 #74

sad Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #79

but the emails! say 1500 radio stations all day, it's democrats fault for sabotaging trump certainot Oct 2019 #80

And "legal" workers aren't interested in doing back breaking TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #82

I wonder if higher pay would change that. Thunderbeast Oct 2019 #83

But the seasonal nature of the work is a big part of the problem TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #85

Please tell us that she voted for Hillary, or even Stein or Johnson. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #86

Stein was all buddy buddy DENVERPOPS Oct 2019 #93

U.S. pear export outlook positive despite China tariffs Mosby Oct 2019 #87

My apple grower (farmers market) sold his 150-year-old heirloom variety orchard... Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #89