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getagrip_already

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43. the courts can move at a glacial pace.....

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:00 PM

Oct 2019

That is actually a feature in most cases, not a bug.

Expediting isn't something anyone other than the presiding judges can do procedurally, or the administration can demand (and then only to request an emergency scotus review).

The federal courts follow their own timeline. If they feel its urgent, they will quicken the pace. But each stage makes its own decisions.

If the presiding judge says slow down, everything slows down. It's the way the system works.

Nobody can speed a federal judge up.

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No vote!! [View all] EarlG Oct 2019 OP

A vote would just fall out along party lines... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #1

And I don't see Nancy falling for such a ploy WhiteTara Oct 2019 #7

EXACTLY BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #11

Agree, and if Congress votes to impeach now MyMission Oct 2019 #56

There are two different votes at issue, I believe intrepidity Oct 2019 #71

And yet I see some here trying to push a vote. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #81

Justice delayed is Justice denied. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #2

The courts are actually moving pretty quickly StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #9

Really? What have they delivered on? maxsolomon Oct 2019 #13

The legal process is very slow. The courts are moving much more quickly than normal. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #14

even on cases not involving Congress ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #54

Have you seen a good status list of everything outstanding? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #41

Yup, Magoo48 Oct 2019 #52

I don't see how we would benefit in any way from taking a vote. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #3

Do not underestimate the value of an unequivocal AYE Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #18

How many unequivocal Nay"s will there be? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #20

If we are waiting for more worse stuff to come out Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #42

Neither Trump nor his supporters can tell us how to proceed. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #22

That they are asking for a vote has zero to do with Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #26

Yeah, I don't like the idea of allowing this administration to order us around Mike 03 Oct 2019 #4

Yes. stage left Oct 2019 #32

Lock them up in an undisclosed location. Efilroft Sul Oct 2019 #64

Amen. ramen Oct 2019 #63

Regardless, Pelosi, Schiff et al are not going to... dchill Oct 2019 #5

Word of the day..what they do everyday - REPUGNANT....n/t asiliveandbreathe Oct 2019 #6

a question every reporter should be asking trump and all of his surrogates barbtries Oct 2019 #8

Exactly! Duppers Oct 2019 #24

Here is the bottom line for Trumpy the Clown... Moostache Oct 2019 #10

Excellent points...but...serve out his term?. You mean Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #30

Great points. Please run for Congress. Bring your list along. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #80

Yes! What Are you HIDING, Impotent Cha Oct 2019 #12

The courts won't care about a formal vote..... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #15

Yes, but others are saying the courts will care and expedite Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #19

the courts can move at a glacial pace..... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #43

I believe you but why are so many saying that the f Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #45

Lots of people.... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #48

Ok I will. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #49

If you have to hide to do something, you have to know it's wrong---unless Doitnow Oct 2019 #16

But legal requirements mean nothing. They repeatedly ignore subpoenas without consequences. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #17

True. So anything we can do to speed up the legal Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #21

could have impeached, and suffered a CRUSHING loss (nt) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #23

CNN panel just suggested mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #25

CNN? malaise Oct 2019 #31

Yep mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #39

And my question for CNN would be Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #33

Of course he wouldn't. But we can potentially gain Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #37

I think we would look weak Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #38

Yes but do we look strong now? Impeachment inquiry agreement "lite" Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #47

Us voting would not change his behavior one bit. n/t Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #53

No it likely wouldn't. He's a giant unknown who Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #57

Innocent people don't obstruct justice. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #27

Don't let the asshole make up bullshit "rules" and impose them on the House. dalton99a Oct 2019 #28

they should vote on an impeachment inquiry. for the record. Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #29

+1. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #58

That's all well and good, but being on the correct side means squat without punishment Goodheart Oct 2019 #34

Until repercussions, why would trump and whitehouse cooperate. Explain. beachbumbob Oct 2019 #35

You are right. No criminal is going to just give in Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #77

We Don't Need No Stinkin' Vote . . OldManTarHeel Oct 2019 #36

OK, I'll be the Devil's Advocate. TomSlick Oct 2019 #40

getagrip's grots..... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #44

I mostly agree but if Trump is daring us to give him rope to hang himself, I say go for it. TomSlick Oct 2019 #46

Ew...you were so damn logical until the last Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #59

the down side is that a failed vote stopdiggin Oct 2019 #70

If there is a failed vote - which I very much doubt - it's all a futile exercise anyway. TomSlick Oct 2019 #92

agree that a defeat is unlikely stopdiggin Oct 2019 #93

They are guilty as hell warmfeet Oct 2019 #50

They're so morally and mentally defective C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #51

Simple answer Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #55

I doubt he'll even show up for that. Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #60

Might be right Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #65

I agree. n/t Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #68

Nancy ain't going for the okey doke. oasis Oct 2019 #61

K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #62

In Nancy We Trust. Talitha Oct 2019 #66

The House of Representatives... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment. Tactical Peek Oct 2019 #67

Operative words "the House of Representatives" Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #75

Was there a vote to hold the endless treestar Oct 2019 #72

Answer: They have everything to hide. Hortensis Oct 2019 #73

The administration's legal arguments just may be enough to at least get them into court LTG Oct 2019 #74

Why do you think -45/GOP are asking for a vote? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #79

Motives from a non-rational mind? LTG Oct 2019 #90

Ms. Pelosi...please, Cartaphelius Oct 2019 #76

No one proposing that are they? Only talking now Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #78

K&R BlueJac Oct 2019 #82

Don't forget what Michael Avenatti said. calimary Oct 2019 #83

The problem with this argument is that the House relies on the justice system to enforce Texin Oct 2019 #84

NO EARIG, A BETTER QUESTION WOULD BE... blakstoneranger Oct 2019 #85

Yes! Btw just read there are 14 soft rep senators. So Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #91

Amen. Last thing we need to do is let them call the shots and set the narrative. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #86

Take the damn vote. Not taking the vote doesn't look good imo. Alea Oct 2019 #87

NO VOTE! GOP is exactly like a shark testing its prey - poke, poke - no response? KILL IT. (nt) IndyOp Oct 2019 #88

Kicking for visibility! Niagara Oct 2019 #89

I agree. It's still too early to vote. herding cats Oct 2019 #94