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123. Well this is antedotal story...

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #84)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:13 PM

Oct 2019

I was rooming with friends post-graduate school before I found a job (curse you Newt Gingrich). I was working a temp job in a small office with 4 adults and no close contact. The husband where I was staying was a school teacher. There were 3 episodes where the kids in the house and myself were sick, but the husband/father did not. The mother assumed I was getting everyone sick, but I was not exposed to anyone with symptoms, and I was only around adults. He was around a bunch of snot-nosed germ factories.
I still strongly believe that he was an asymptomatic carrier.
Not proof, but sometimes, like climate change "proof" is too high a standard and we need to abide by available evidence.
Ordinarily I'm not a fan of the vaccine and question the efficacy of the flu vaccine, but the OP made me reconsider this.

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The Year I Didn't Get A Flu Shot [View all] obamanut2012 Oct 2019 OP

I got the Egyptian flu from my mummy Beakybird Oct 2019 #1

lol obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #3

Oddly enough, I've never gotten a flu shot PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #2

You can still be a vector. littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #9

Not really. That's something that is widely said with little or PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #21

One quibble on that excerpt Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #46

Bingo! Scant evidence is the important part. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #79

Your position is fine...at least until the day that there is more than scant evidence stopbush Oct 2019 #81

To Which I Would Add RobinA Oct 2019 #82

Good point. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #84

Well this is antedotal story... rwsanders Oct 2019 #123

There is a difference between something being true and littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #88

"Scant evidence" indicates that it rarely, if ever, happens. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #103

I disagree. littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #114

Supposed asymptomatic carriers PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #117

Herd immunity. Does. Not. Work. Iwasthere Oct 2019 #107

Vectors exist. With or without herd immunity. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #116

That's just not true Major Nikon Oct 2019 #135

The number you are quoting Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #158

I very clearly stated the number depends on effectiveness Major Nikon Oct 2019 #160

I did cherry pick the numbers - I used those that created the LOWEST threshold Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #170

Ok, so what type of flu? Major Nikon Oct 2019 #173

Same for me! BuddhaGirl Oct 2019 #13

Glad most people do. paleotn Oct 2019 #73

Nope, but thanks for your concern. BuddhaGirl Oct 2019 #97

Unless a big part of the herd??? Iwasthere Oct 2019 #106

Same here. Haven't had a flu shot in 25+ yrs. only had the flu once in all that time Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #20

I've never had a flu shot and I've Cha Oct 2019 #38

Me either. cwydro Oct 2019 #41

"....swine flu shot, which made half the base sick." sarge43 Oct 2019 #74

I was not in basic training and not at Lackland. cwydro Oct 2019 #99

No offense, but... paleotn Oct 2019 #72

The only way in which I'm an outlier is that I seem to have PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #128

Same with me Raine Oct 2019 #89

Yup. I've smoked a pack a day since 1984 and haven't gotten cancer or emphysema. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #112

In your case, you're tempting fate. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #151

Fished In! ProfessorGAC Oct 2019 #163

I agree, circumstances can vary from one person to another FoxNewsSucks Oct 2019 #127

Flu doesn't make you puke. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #141

I have never gotten a shot and have gotten sick twice in around 30 years. n Blue_true Oct 2019 #137

interesting...I also got the worst flu of my entire life right at New Years time qazplm135 Oct 2019 #4

It was horrible! obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #24

me too! angel823 Oct 2019 #76

That's scary! Faux pas Oct 2019 #5

The flu shot didn't give you the flu. Aristus Oct 2019 #6

Thank you Disaffected Oct 2019 #39

They've had the advantage of growing up Codeine Oct 2019 #64

You didn't get the flu from the vaccine. Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #7

The flu vax isn't "poison" obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #25

Thanks for your story! Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #8

Thanks! obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #27

Some flu strains worse for NOT elderly or children mchill Oct 2019 #10

Yeah, the 1918 Flu was that way obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #26

We both work with college students, 100's of them. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #11

College kids come to campus from all over the world obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #28

When I suffer from "flu-like symptoms" FakeNoose Oct 2019 #12

I was just reading about the Spanish Flu pandemic. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #16

Definitely some of my issues were from low electrolytes/dehydration obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #30

Another important thing to be aware of about that epidemic PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #143

I've read of estimates as high as 100M deaths from the 1918 pandemic. sarge43 Oct 2019 #69

Not good for everyone Chicagogrl1 Oct 2019 #14

You know anti vaxx propo is not allowed here, right? obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #31

Even if there was mercury Disaffected Oct 2019 #40

Before they eliminated mercury from childhood vaccines, the COMBINED amount some babies pnwmom Oct 2019 #50

That wasn't anti-vax propaganda, and you've just said something untrue. pnwmom Oct 2019 #49

Hysteria about thimerosal was the direct result of anti-vax bullshit Major Nikon Oct 2019 #142

Yes, there was a problem with thimerosal. Because of the vaccine schedule, children were pnwmom Oct 2019 #145

Wrong Major Nikon Oct 2019 #146

Wrong. The cumulative doses, according to the FDA, pnwmom Oct 2019 #147

What you posted not only doesn't prove your assertion, it contradicts it Major Nikon Oct 2019 #148

No, there's no contradiction. They determined that, based on the babies weight and pnwmom Oct 2019 #149

Wrong Major Nikon Oct 2019 #152

The retroactive determination didn't change the fact that using the best facts they had AT THE TIME pnwmom Oct 2019 #157

Wrong Major Nikon Oct 2019 #161

They didn't have a standard for ethylmercury then, so they used the standard of the other form, pnwmom Oct 2019 #162

Wrong Major Nikon Oct 2019 #164

The levels had exceeded the only standard they had, which was the other form. pnwmom Oct 2019 #166

They made no such claim and issued no such order Major Nikon Oct 2019 #167

From the FDA: "The US Public Health Service decided that as much mercury as possible pnwmom Oct 2019 #168

A pamphlet which doesn't say the FDA ordered anything Major Nikon Oct 2019 #171

How does this not support what I've already said? There is no contradiction at all. pnwmom Oct 2019 #172

Nice try. You edited your post and changed your claim Major Nikon Oct 2019 #175

LOL. What post did I change? NONE of my posts in this thread have any edits. pnwmom Oct 2019 #176

You might want to check your facts before handing out ridicule. Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #100

It appears you are not going to get a response Iwasthere Oct 2019 #108

Care to inform us one what the danger of that Mercury is? GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #138

Did I say there was a danger? Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #159

That isn't the point she was making. Since the vaccine IS available in a mercury-free form, pnwmom Oct 2019 #169

Wrong - there is mercury in multi-dose vaccines - single dose is mercury free womanofthehills Oct 2019 #129

Have the discussion about flu shots with your health care provider irisblue Oct 2019 #58

I have had that discussion and the doctor could not answer my question Iwasthere Oct 2019 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Oct 2019 #118

Each injectable has an insert with the ingredients & % of each. irisblue Oct 2019 #119

Here is a chart from CDC of different flu shots & what is in them womanofthehills Oct 2019 #130

Hi! I've not been on much recently, wondered if you were still around. uppityperson Oct 2019 #60

Take that mercury bullshit elsewhere, thanks. Codeine Oct 2019 #66

Adults check their facts, before ridiculing people who have their facts straight Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #101

Im talking about it being an issue at all. Codeine Oct 2019 #104

The only assertion by the person to whom you responded was: Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #133

Thank you, Ms. Toad, for your thoughtful response. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #178

You can choose to get a flu shot with or without mercury womanofthehills Oct 2019 #131

That sounds a million times worse than anything I've ever contracted. ffr Oct 2019 #15

LIke someone said upthread, some strains hit the young and healthy worse obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #32

Never had a flu shot Joe Nation Oct 2019 #17

I'm 71 and have never taken a flu shot. Haven't had flu since college. sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #120

Exactly the case for me too. The flu is a minor inconvenience, mild at best. ffr Oct 2019 #121

I credit my lifelong fitness regimen to my flu resistance. Blue_true Oct 2019 #139

Never had a flu shot either womanofthehills Oct 2019 #132

The 63 years I did get the flu shot Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #18

That sounds far more like Mono than the flu. Joe Nation Oct 2019 #19

It was 100% the flu obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #33

My wife has seen me as a skeleton human in a hospital bed because of the flu. hunter Oct 2019 #22

Right?! It feels horrible obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #34

Never had the flu shot - got the flu once. rainin Oct 2019 #23

He did not get teh flu from the shot -- 100% wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #47

I know. I comment on DU regularly and get no interest. rainin Oct 2019 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #70

Me Too RobinA Oct 2019 #83

Yep. The herd immunity argument... BS! Iwasthere Oct 2019 #111

For a vaccine as ineffective as the influenza vaccine the participation required is more than 100% Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #134

Stop posting misinformation. Aristus Oct 2019 #122

LOL I literally posted my personal experience. hahahahahahahaha rainin Oct 2019 #124

Glad you're having so much fun with this. Aristus Oct 2019 #126

I forget the year The Wizard Oct 2019 #29

Yes! Exactly -- you literally cannot move obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #36

Just got my flu shot yesterday Raftergirl Oct 2019 #37

At 65 I've only had two shots. The second one was this past Saturday. nt Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #42

Didn't take it for 40 years, got the flu once. Taken it last 2 yrs. I'm around people post chemo flying_wahini Oct 2019 #43

You are a good person obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #44

I've been told by Docs that flu may be the cause of hypothyroidism Auggie Oct 2019 #45

That is so interesting! obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #51

Yeah -- one doc, at least ... Auggie Oct 2019 #53

Never had a flu shot. Never had the flu. former9thward Oct 2019 #48

And there's the back the t-shirt. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #113

I got the flu BEFORE commonly available flu shots..... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #54

I get them most years. safeinOhio Oct 2019 #55

Anti-vax nonsense Ladygrey Oct 2019 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #59

No doctor worth his salt would ever say that.... Ladygrey Oct 2019 #86

Thank you for your post. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #75

K&R for visibility lunamagica Oct 2019 #57

Are you sure it was the flu and not norovirus? Freddie Oct 2019 #61

It was 100% the flu obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #90

Have got shots since diagnosed with diabeties I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #62

Flu is a viral respiratory illness Meowmee Oct 2019 #65

Ummm.... maybe not try and call me wrong or a liar obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #91

Hmm Meowmee Oct 2019 #154

I ride public transit and work with all sorts of characters IronLionZion Oct 2019 #67

I never get sick and dont trust vaccines. nt LexVegas Oct 2019 #68

i started to rant then saw it was you obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #92

I've had the flu and the flu shot. GreenEyedLefty Oct 2019 #71

On my calendar after MuseRider Oct 2019 #77

yup obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #93

I get one every year tishaLA Oct 2019 #78

We're in our 70's, got our shots last week. secondwind Oct 2019 #80

I didn't even know that was a thing until last year obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #94

The nastiest flu I ever got was 2001 davekriss Oct 2019 #85

Yeah, my doctor said it just really messed with me obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #95

"feels like ... dying" davekriss Oct 2019 #179

Sounds like norovirus to me. roamer65 Oct 2019 #87

Except it wasn't, it was the flu obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #96

Ugh. Glad u made it through it. roamer65 Oct 2019 #125

My husband never gets a flu shot. Usually he's fine. Until this past spring. a la izquierda Oct 2019 #98

I don't see flu shots as being the same JenniferJuniper Oct 2019 #102

I had not had Flu Shot in so long I do not even know when I had one... BadGimp Oct 2019 #105

A great reminder. Thanks amuse bouche Oct 2019 #109

One day our kids will look back on this and wonder WTF? Iwasthere Oct 2019 #115

Unlike some vaccinations, I view flu shots as security blankets. Blue_true Oct 2019 #144

I have never had a flu shot. I have gotten noticeably sick only twice. Blue_true Oct 2019 #136

I wonder how many of the 80,000 people who die each year from the flu, GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #140

Actually between 12,000 and 80,000 die each year womanofthehills Oct 2019 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Oct 2019 #180

In the US? Can you share your source for this stat? ehrnst Oct 2019 #181

but for WHICH flu? samnsara Oct 2019 #153

We went and got ours yesterday. Better safe than sorry! Luciferous Oct 2019 #155

I get a flu shot every year. I got flu 4 times one year, 3 another. McCamy Taylor Oct 2019 #156

The best deterrent to getting the flu or a cold is washing your hands frequently YOHABLO Oct 2019 #174

If you're not sure about a flu shot, check in with your doctor... cynatnite Oct 2019 #165

There is a chance that you would have gotten it any way that year Polybius Oct 2019 #177