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MineralMan

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11. First, we have to regain a 2/3 majority in Congress (both houses)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:34 PM

Oct 2019

Any change in that will require a constitutional amendment. Not so easy to manage, eh?

A lot of people have proposed getting rid of the Electoral College, but they all seem to ignore what that would require.

We're a long way from that point. Republicans still have a majority in the Senate.

If you want to do this, then you must work to elect 67 Senators who will go along. That's your assignment.

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Electoral College [View all] RicROC Oct 2019 OP

we're getting close... krispos42 Oct 2019 #1

I doubt it would hold up in court Polybius Oct 2019 #3

"plenary" and "exclusive" state right mvymvy Oct 2019 #8

The Interstate Compact Clause: onenote Oct 2019 #12

No. mvymvy Oct 2019 #13

The somewhat more comprehensive review of the state of the law by the CRS onenote Oct 2019 #16

Your cut and paste..with no link to the original source(very much not cool) AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #63

What are you talking about? There is no "increase" in power Azathoth Oct 2019 #77

I'm doing no such thing...I'll repeat my question again AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #88

Every vote in every state will matter and count equally mvymvy Oct 2019 #89

"No voter would be disenfranchised - deprived of the right to vote. " AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #90

Every vote in every state will matter and count equally in the national popular vote total mvymvy Oct 2019 #91

A vote reversed is a vote denied no matter how many times you say otherwise AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #92

The Electoral College isn't a state right though Polybius Oct 2019 #22

exclusive and plenary State right mvymvy Oct 2019 #29

What about voter disenfranchiesment? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #54

Here's another one: Polybius Oct 2019 #57

It's not goimg to survive SCOTUS review...ever. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #60

Exclusive and Plenary authority mvymvy Oct 2019 #66

Not an option mvymvy Oct 2019 #68

All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live mvymvy Oct 2019 #67

Not if a compact state allocates it's electors to a candidate that AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #73

All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live. mvymvy Oct 2019 #74

Except in a state that allocated their EC votes counter AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #76

Every vote in every state will matter and count equally mvymvy Oct 2019 #82

I was taught when you cut and paste... you link your sources. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #84

The presidential election is not a state election Azathoth Oct 2019 #79

Wait...what???? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #83

This is *literally* the same states rights' argument that Trump supporters use to legitimize him Azathoth Oct 2019 #78

I'll repeat my question.... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #85

In my opinion the 'National Popular Vote Interstate Compact' is a joke. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #18

NOT a handshake mvymvy Oct 2019 #19

States can easily get around that. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #23

Faithful electors will continue to elect the President mvymvy Oct 2019 #30

Good info, but the stuff you copy and pasted, didn't really address what I said. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #46

So let's say Mississippi joins and Trump wins by 30 points against (let's say) Warren Polybius Oct 2019 #58

No. 270+ presidential electors supporting winner of national popular vote mvymvy Oct 2019 #69

I don't know what you see in this ridiculous bill Polybius Oct 2019 #72

Equality mvymvy Oct 2019 #75

Still a handshake FBaggins Oct 2019 #26

Wrong mvymvy Oct 2019 #31

Not buying it FBaggins Oct 2019 #36

Impairments Clause mvymvy Oct 2019 #37

Have you read ArtI Sec10 of the Constitution? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #93

Exclusive and Plenary mvymvy Oct 2019 #38

Untrue FBaggins Oct 2019 #42

Binding mvymvy Oct 2019 #39

Doubt it FBaggins Oct 2019 #43

Exclusive and Plenary mvymvy Oct 2019 #44

Terms for Withdrawal mvymvy Oct 2019 #40

The court might also decide it has no authority to tell states how to apportion their electors Azathoth Oct 2019 #80

You'll never get it... brooklynite Oct 2019 #25

status in some Republican states mvymvy Oct 2019 #32

most all of those are now in the fail column Celerity Oct 2019 #45

Nate Silver and 538 infamously did not foresee Trump's victory mvymvy Oct 2019 #48

non sequitur Celerity Oct 2019 #49

You presented as authority mvymvy Oct 2019 #56

Actually you have....though you have yet to show anything .. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #61

Sounds like the easiest thing to do is eliminate the Electoral College and abqtommy Oct 2019 #2

73% of the way mvymvy Oct 2019 #9

That would require a Constitutional Amendment... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #10

Thanks, we can use a little luck with all the corruption in our voting process. abqtommy Oct 2019 #15

Changing State laws mvymvy Oct 2019 #20

And has been decided by SCOTUS something of this magnitude.. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #55

Major Changes using Exclusive & Plenary Authority of States mvymvy Oct 2019 #70

Your point? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #71

I checked into that a while back. It, surprisingly, would have made no difference in 2016. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #5

I am far more concerned with the wealth of the Congress than just its size... Moostache Oct 2019 #6

Do they represent us? They certainly arent like us. Joe941 Oct 2019 #47

It's a remnant of slavery and obviously shouldn't exist, but good luck getting rid of it. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #7

First, we have to regain a 2/3 majority in Congress (both houses) MineralMan Oct 2019 #11

Changing State laws mvymvy Oct 2019 #21

One quick solution is to lift the cap on the number of House members tinrobot Oct 2019 #14

As I said above, it wouldn't have been a lot closer in 2016. Captain Stern Oct 2019 #17

I think you're mistaken about the larger states being the ones shortchanged. sl8 Oct 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #27

not likely as its all in the constitution and no way to get support to even get it to the states beachbumbob Oct 2019 #28

A method for How to award electors is NOT in the Constitution mvymvy Oct 2019 #33

i thought you were suggesting changing the number of beachbumbob Oct 2019 #41

The bill has been passed in 40 state legislative chambers mvymvy Oct 2019 #34

Turnout increases when every vote counts mvymvy Oct 2019 #35

We have never been a "Representative Democracy" grantcart Oct 2019 #50

and the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 mountain grammy Oct 2019 #52

Underrepresented in the House? sl8 Oct 2019 #65

Thanks. mountain grammy Oct 2019 #81

De nada. sl8 Oct 2019 #86

Well said, grantcart saidsimplesimon Oct 2019 #53

National Popular Vote compact PatrickforO Oct 2019 #51

If it holds up in court Polybius Oct 2019 #59

It won't... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #62

Increasing the number of reps in congress would be a great Bettie Oct 2019 #64

I sincerely hope this will be the last presidential election our democracy is plagued by the EC jcmaine72 Oct 2019 #87

We can't get the ERA...how are you going to get this by 2024? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #94

We're not a democracy? Fine jcmaine72 Oct 2019 #95

But it won't be eliminated until the Constitution is amended. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #96