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Polybius

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68. Aren't 48 states out of 50 winner take all?

Reply to pecosbob (Reply #63)

Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:50 PM

Oct 2019

Only two states split their electoral votes.

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Electoral College Overwhelmingly Favors Republicans, Abolishing Entire System Only Remedy: Study [View all] applegrove Oct 2019 OP

We are overdue for getting rid of that dinosaur, the Electoral College. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #1

As I keep saying, we need major structural reform. But the very reasons why we need reform... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #2

Take away the veto power of the Senate. roamer65 Oct 2019 #4

There is a simpler way: Lift the cap on representatives Jake Stern Oct 2019 #27

It would be helpful if we had a lower and more equal ratio of representatives:constituents, but... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #44

Did not realize TheFarseer Oct 2019 #52

Rethink the Senate Nasruddin Oct 2019 #33

There are strong arguments for getting rid of all borders, state and national. As you say... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #37

I imagine Canada and Mexico fescuerescue Oct 2019 #73

If Dump loses the popular, but wins by electoral in '20 this country won't survive it. roamer65 Oct 2019 #3

I would add one very important caveat, that being IF the Rethugs also retain the Senate in 2020 and Celerity Oct 2019 #9

I agree, but I think the possible breakup will come sooner if your scenario becomes reality. roamer65 Oct 2019 #12

shit wont really hit the fan action-wise until enough people feel the real burn IMHO Celerity Oct 2019 #23

Right Cosmocat Oct 2019 #49

The framers likely would have expected the Constitution to have been rewritten by now. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #39

Agreed. The new Constitution controlled by red states, oligarchs and MarcA Oct 2019 #45

Better yet would be doing away with the nation-state concept, but it'll take a while... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #47

Very well stated. The evolution of human kind takes steps and the MarcA Oct 2019 #67

The human race is one more world war away from this epiphany. roamer65 Oct 2019 #70

Are you familiar with Cooperation Jackson? Garrett78 Oct 2019 #76

Why do you think it would take that long (2030s)? Dan Oct 2019 #80

Because it is not an instant process of stripping away civil Celerity Oct 2019 #83

There will be civil unrest the likes of which this country has never seen... and rightfully so!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #32

Why? regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #36

The country would survive and may even, one day, be stronger than ever. *But*... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #40

The Electoral College votes the way the States they represent voted. I do not like the EC, but napi21 Oct 2019 #5

What is the problem treestar Oct 2019 #6

Not just campaigning fescuerescue Oct 2019 #72

Why are less populated areas less populated? jberryhill Oct 2019 #10

Because most of them are farmers & ranchers who provide our FOOD & MEAT! We NEED their napi21 Oct 2019 #15

simple retort to that Celerity Oct 2019 #28

So are we and I presume they would not refuse to sell to us treestar Oct 2019 #53

That's great jberryhill Oct 2019 #55

Why should I trust the judgement of people who live in much of California? Jake Stern Oct 2019 #22

You have not explained why they have a disproportionate vote jberryhill Oct 2019 #57

And it's not about trusting their judgement or not... Salviati Oct 2019 #25

Exactly. nt Progressive Jones Oct 2019 #26

Notice how the replies above missed that jberryhill Oct 2019 #58

The low population states make bad choices because a large proportion of their populations diane in sf Oct 2019 #18

There are sensible ways to ensure justice for smaller states without maintaining... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #41

But the EC isn't even performing its duty as originally intended. ecstatic Oct 2019 #69

Its original intent was to give slave states disproportionate power. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #74

I actually like what Pete Buttigieg had to say about this. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #7

I also like his idea of increasing the number of justices in the SCOTUS. Celerity Oct 2019 #17

I'd rather we reduce the number of justices to 0 Nasruddin Oct 2019 #29

so when a state, say Alabama, passes a law that says I can be imprisoned when I have sex w/ my wife Celerity Oct 2019 #31

15 Supreme Court Justices seems about right, at least as a first step. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #34

+1 Celerity Oct 2019 #42

I would make it 19 or 28 Justices jmowreader Oct 2019 #84

Interesting suggestion. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #85

Increasing the number of justices is unfair TheFarseer Oct 2019 #56

When options are limited by the blatant intransigence of a handful of RW states Jake Stern Oct 2019 #65

True TheFarseer Oct 2019 #66

I agree. diane in sf Oct 2019 #19

I appreciate that Buttigieg, more than anyone else, is talking about... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #43

Me too! I made it my signature several months ago: ecstatic Oct 2019 #77

Good for you, my dear ecstatic! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #79

Agree 100% colsohlibgal Oct 2019 #8

Any ideas how? brooklynite Oct 2019 #11

And to amend the Constitution will require a supermajority of state legislatures... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #38

Actually is Russian interference not the electoral college that caused 2016. Joe941 Oct 2019 #13

Many thing went bad in 2016. applegrove Oct 2019 #14

actually it is both Skittles Oct 2019 #16

Yep, it only took a combined margin of 70k votes in WI, MI, and PA to throw the election. diane in sf Oct 2019 #21

absolutely correct Skittles Oct 2019 #24

They played the EC like a fiddle Freddie Oct 2019 #60

Russian interference would not have mattered treestar Oct 2019 #54

My point is even with the electoral college Clinton would have won... Joe941 Oct 2019 #64

When is any university going to "survey" the Pentagon, huh? Is the US military planning to be some ancianita Oct 2019 #20

We can talk all we want about changing the system. Nothing will get done without majorities in both YOHABLO Oct 2019 #30

Texas EveDibb Oct 2019 #35

oh bullshit evertonfc Oct 2019 #46

There's a reason why it's happened twice in such a short span of time. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #81

Essentially the tyranny of the minority system Freddie Oct 2019 #48

The tyranny of the minority is enabled maxrandb Oct 2019 #50

But even if we win the WH, House and Senate Freddie Oct 2019 #61

The system is one of tyranny of the minority. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #51

Part of the problem is that we have too many states Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #59

Rich pigs and corporation owners make I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #62

Can anyone explain why a 'winner take all' system is permitted to exist in some states? pecosbob Oct 2019 #63

Aren't 48 states out of 50 winner take all? Polybius Oct 2019 #68

The electoral college belongs on the dust heap of history. It's an eighteenth century anachronism. dawg Oct 2019 #71

K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #75

K&R JonLP24 Oct 2019 #78