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54. So it's basically

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Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:58 PM

Oct 2019

A scantron machine but the computer prints it rather than filling it in with a pencil? Am I getting it?

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I voted yesterday on new voting machines, and I liked them [View all] Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 OP

What happens if you see an error on the paper printout? ramblin_dave Oct 2019 #1

I guess you could alert a poll worker and let them investigate what happened. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #5

Presumably, you just start over. Nothing is counted until a ballot is scanned. TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #6

If you see an error, unfortunately it is your word against "the machine" and diva77 Oct 2019 #19

No. Come on. Hortensis Oct 2019 #31

Your checking BEFORE the scan. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #35

Conspiracy theories that involve a hidden hand are more fun than Blue_true Oct 2019 #36

doesn't matter - once you feed the "ballot" back into the machine it can change your vote after the diva77 Oct 2019 #37

FACT: There is still a paper ballot for an audit or a recount! Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #40

it does NOT show voter intent. the paper you submitted might not be the one that ends up being diva77 Oct 2019 #41

Which is pretty much no different than ballot box stuffing with paper ballots. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #43

It is waaay different -- the difference between changing a spreadsheet with an algorithm diva77 Oct 2019 #52

no the vote tampering happens in the counting software questionseverything Oct 2019 #57

I would prefer pure paper ballots hand counted that would take days and be a physical record of Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #60

any paper is better than no paper,that is true questionseverything Oct 2019 #62

No. If you see an error, Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #44

I don't have link on hand, but a study found that vast majority do not check their votes diva77 Oct 2019 #47

And whose fault is that? Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #50

Getting ballot at the end makes it difficult to check votes diva77 Oct 2019 #51

Don't be silly. Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #53

trusting the software to count takes the check away from citizens questionseverything Oct 2019 #56

Out here in California, we're going to do something very similar. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #2

Getting the entire country to vote this way is probably a bit Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #7

Alas, probably. But maybe someday! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #10

Florida already uses optical scanners, but unfortunately there is no statewide Blue_true Oct 2019 #38

Some counties are further ahead than others California_Republic Oct 2019 #14

Looks good. Ours you have to fill out by hand and put in the scanner... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #3

Scanners are good and have been used for years lunatica Oct 2019 #8

Of course, faster than and and none of the error problems with hand counting... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #9

Scanners can be hacked csziggy Oct 2019 #11

That's why the paper ballots need to be kept. lunatica Oct 2019 #12

They need to be HAND-MARKED paper ballots!!! diva77 Oct 2019 #16

Yes, in the 2000 election, Ion Sancho put up images of all the questioned ballots csziggy Oct 2019 #21

paper ballots should be counted by hand openly and transparently questionseverything Oct 2019 #24

+1,000,000,000... fierywoman Oct 2019 #33

Hand-marked or machine-marked paper ballots (that the voter checks before getting the vote tallied, Blue_true Oct 2019 #42

From my experience I've come to the conclusion lunatica Oct 2019 #45

If we are going to permanently change things for the better, we need to Blue_true Oct 2019 #48

We recently got those in Elkhart County, Indiana bearsfootball516 Oct 2019 #4

Sorry you are misinformed. It is not fantastic at all. Please refer to post #15 diva77 Oct 2019 #17

Glad to hear about another tiny step in the INCREDIBLY SLOW march forward. nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #13

it is a leap BACKWARDS. Please see post #15 on this thread diva77 Oct 2019 #18

You like having a private corporation come between you & your vote? diva77 Oct 2019 #15

Not happy we have private companies making these machines Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #25

I don't see how you can conclude it's a step in the right direction if you read up on these diva77 Oct 2019 #26

I'll stand by what I said. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #28

Unfortunately hackable EleanorR Oct 2019 #20

I'm glad I live in a small town. matt819 Oct 2019 #22

Will be using similar new machines in Georgia next year. Looks like folks got message after 2016. Hoyt Oct 2019 #23

I remember reading about Georgia politicians themselves Hortensis Oct 2019 #32

The solution to this problem is not to invest hundreds of millions in republican owned diva77 Oct 2019 #39

The paper backup ballot is useless lapfog_1 Oct 2019 #27

The paper is a backup. Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #30

marginally so... lapfog_1 Oct 2019 #46

We still need paper ballots with Blockchain auditing... JCMach1 Oct 2019 #29

How hard would it be to program the machine to give the voter his choices in a printed form and fierywoman Oct 2019 #34

If that is the ES&S Express Vote machines, that is what they will have us use here in Philly BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #49

if it only prints out a bar code then it is worthless questionseverything Oct 2019 #55

I think the way they described it here BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #58

without hand counting it is a trust me system questionseverything Oct 2019 #61

So it's basically TheFarseer Oct 2019 #54

What we were told here in Philly is BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #59

It's an easy way to manufacture fake votes, since every paper is mechanically produced. hunter Oct 2019 #63