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shockey80

(4,379 posts) Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:53 PM Oct 2019

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I'm sticking with my prediction. There will be no trial, the Republicans will force Trump to resign. [View all]

This is now a smoking gun case. The Republicans in the Senate will not want this to go to trial. They will not want to vote one way or another.

If this goes to trial things will get even worse for the Republicans. The entire white house is involved a bribery case with all kinds of witnesses and documents. The trial will expose all of them.

Would you rather go to trial against a smoking gun case that could implicate dozens of Republicans or would you rather force Trump to resign and not go to trial.

I would like to add one thought, The Democrats should stop saying quid pro quo and call it bribery because that's what it is. Every American understands the meaning of bribery.

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I'm sticking with my prediction. There will be no trial, the Republicans will force Trump to resign. [View all] shockey80 Oct 2019 OP

I think you're right. All of what's going on now is the squealing of the pigs before slaughter. n/t Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #1

I don't think anyone will get him to resign. Dustlawyer Oct 2019 #60

Agree dhol82 Oct 2019 #83

He could move to Moscow, be close to buddy. rickyhall Oct 2019 #92

Big question is: dhol82 Oct 2019 #96

I doubt Digger Oct 2019 #116

But I think Trump has the Repubs by the jimlup Oct 2019 #2

Remember the Pied Piper Rudy and his Russian thugs with bank accounts. gordianot Oct 2019 #15

If they don't, they are complicit in the trashing of the Constitution. nt OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2019 #3

They (Republican Congresspeople & Cabinet Ministers) Golden Raisin Oct 2019 #90

YES, it will get worse,a trial would be much worse. Today is just the start, perhaps he will resign. Stuart G Oct 2019 #4

There is one possible flaw with my prediction. shockey80 Oct 2019 #10

The problem here isn't that they are stupid. jcgoldie Oct 2019 #63

And that my friend is stupid!!!!!! Butterflylady Oct 2019 #86

The main flaw with your prediction is that we're talking about Trump. TomSlick Oct 2019 #69

The Republicans aren't able to "force" him to do anything.... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #5

I agree with you leftieNanner Oct 2019 #13

Not only prison is on his fear list. Grammy23 Oct 2019 #74

He'd just lie.......again, SergeStorms Oct 2019 #118

Bingo pbmus Oct 2019 #18

Yep. Count on it. nt crickets Oct 2019 #25

he folds all the time. mopinko Oct 2019 #26

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #43

Agree! It may depend on if he thinks he can get a pardon or make a deal to just walk away Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #84

I'm Thinking Saddam Hussein leaving Kuwait burn everything IADEMO2004 Oct 2019 #29

I'm very much afraid that you're right. Trump won't go without burning Arkansas Granny Oct 2019 #41

Then again, hes not the smartest guy around.... paleotn Oct 2019 #45

My thoughts as well. DesertRat Oct 2019 #53

He Can't Tell Right From Wrong DallasNE Oct 2019 #56

"The Republicans aren't able to "force" him to do anything...." Talitha Oct 2019 #73

Agreed relayerbob Oct 2019 #88

What I see today is Republicans willing to, as a group, break the law to defend the President. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #6

Oh, did Susan Collins weigh in...i hadn't read that anywhere just yet lol... Volaris Oct 2019 #38

Those in safe, red districts or states, yes. paleotn Oct 2019 #50

Smoking cannon here: Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #7

Wishful thinking redstateblues Oct 2019 #8

Extortion by any other name... leftieNanner Oct 2019 #9

I think extortion is a better description of what happened. Chemisse Oct 2019 #19

I don't think Trump will give up the fight. Native Oct 2019 #11

Actually, it is in his nature. NanceGreggs Oct 2019 #30

And, he isn't protected from prosecution once he leaves office. spooky3 Oct 2019 #35

All true. NanceGreggs Oct 2019 #40

He won't have the money to pay lawyers. Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #54

And the others are/will be in jail. Nt spooky3 Oct 2019 #65

You know that, and I know that ... NanceGreggs Oct 2019 #100

One way or another he's going to have to face prosecution. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #12

Pence's Pardon... TommyCelt Oct 2019 #109

I think they would have to give him a lot of money to resign. tanyev Oct 2019 #14

That's ok ... The empressof all Oct 2019 #16

I think they'll have a trial in the Senate, milk it for all it's worth.... VarryOn Oct 2019 #17

I thinking that will have to drag MF45 kicking and screaming UpInArms Oct 2019 #20

My woke neighbors said to me::It's plain & simple bribery and extortion, just like mafia crooks. n/t MFGsunny Oct 2019 #21

Trump has a strong incentive, though, to remain in office. 20 Republican Senators is still unlikely. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #22

The Senators have to be present in order to vote. luvtheGWN Oct 2019 #93

I think, if any do, they'll face the wrath of Cult45 in their next election. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #94

House Dems should be clear to Mike Dense: pardon Chump Hassler Oct 2019 #23

Only if they can come up with an excuse that Trump thinks is a win for him. Kablooie Oct 2019 #24

Well there is a bill Lindsey's trying to pass that would prevent requiring a trial. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #27

Trump will never resign Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #28

Not disagreeing, just think it will be a hard sell rurallib Oct 2019 #31

I agree-- he's going to stomp out very loudly and blame the GOP dawg day Oct 2019 #32

I'm not so fussy about how it happens. lpbk2713 Oct 2019 #33

As long as there is a perp-walk and Trump in tears, I am good... Moostache Oct 2019 #37

Perfection, LOL Sugarcoated Oct 2019 #106

IMHO it all depends on the polls. Nt spooky3 Oct 2019 #34

Trump will never resign. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2019 #36

I used to think he'd never resign, but he gave up the fight for Doral pretty quickly Poiuyt Oct 2019 #39

nobody forces trump to do anything beachbumbob Oct 2019 #42

You overestimate Republicans. Goodheart Oct 2019 #44

Impeachment evertonfc Oct 2019 #46

Several top administration officials are also involved and removing Trump does NOTHING about them bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #47

Why would they suspend the Great Lie now? Mr. Ected Oct 2019 #48

Withholding congressionally allocated $ until you get dirt is not bribery but extortion. ancianita Oct 2019 #49

Even Miss Lindsey is Hedging his bets now. Botany Oct 2019 #51

FWIW, all the psychics I've been following agree with you. fierywoman Oct 2019 #52

The only way he would resign is if marlakay Oct 2019 #55

This! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #85

Trump's ego moreland01 Oct 2019 #57

I agree with you. He thinks he's all-powerful. But what if he's told the Senate will convict? Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #99

What kept me awake in the night Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #58

"President Pence" is their solution. I wonder why they don't want it. TeamPooka Oct 2019 #59

You may be right. llmart Oct 2019 #61

I tend to agree with you. Blue_true Oct 2019 #62

Not sure they care about Pence particularly either. Kentonio Oct 2019 #115

The asshole in chief can go away by any means, necessary or otherwise - I don't give a shit anymore warmfeet Oct 2019 #64

Narcissists ALWAYS escape consequences bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #66

tRump will never give up the only thing keeping him out of prison. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #67

Jim Jones...David Koresh...Donald Trump? Canoe52 Oct 2019 #68

Only one thing gets Republicans in the Senate to demand that of Trump DFW Oct 2019 #70

tRUMP is a compromised traitor who via Putin SayItLoud Oct 2019 #71

No, it will go to trial and he will be acquitted by the Senate book_worm Oct 2019 #72

One of Trump's cornerstone strategies relies on the awkwardness of enforcing norms... tandem5 Oct 2019 #75

+1. yonder Oct 2019 #98

"the awkwardness of enforcing norms"... good analysis. VOX Oct 2019 #112

I'm sticking with my opinion. there will be NO articles sent to senate. none. zero. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #76

A smoking howitzer. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #77

tRump will not resign in my opinion. Neither will he voluntarily relinquish Enoki33 Oct 2019 #78

Trump won't go, his ego won't let him RainCaster Oct 2019 #79

Cant Resign guss Oct 2019 #80

In exchange for an agreement CanonRay Oct 2019 #81

The assumption that McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Ronna McDaniel, et al can control Trump's... LudwigPastorius Oct 2019 #82

I disagree relayerbob Oct 2019 #87

He'll serve full term, unless for health reasons hibbing Oct 2019 #89

it's not bribery, it's a shakedown. paulkienitz Oct 2019 #91

I'm sure that's what the Republicans are hoping for, but reality might be different. herding cats Oct 2019 #95

I can believe they will try to force him out, but I don't see how they can succeed. D23MIURG23 Oct 2019 #97

Given his ego, I don't think Trump would resign but I think some Senators might boycott the vote. CaptainTruth Oct 2019 #101

resignation vapor2 Oct 2019 #102

I dont care how he is removed from office, just get the POS removed still_one Oct 2019 #103

That would also allow Trump+GOP to forever claim Americans were unfairly denied their leader. NCLefty Oct 2019 #104

Pence needs to go, too Joinfortmill Oct 2019 #105

Perfectly sensible but grantcart Oct 2019 #107

Probably true. I'm personally hoping he gets zealously prosecuted the second he's out the door. D23MIURG23 Oct 2019 #114

Scaramucci has made the same prediction peggysue2 Oct 2019 #108

My guess is that after the holidays, Idiot trump will go full-on Fhrerbunker LanternWaste Oct 2019 #110

They can't "force him to resign." I'm not sure if resignation is something a narcissist Nitram Oct 2019 #111

You wish nitpicker Oct 2019 #113

Welp, looks like that's not happening budkin Oct 2019 #117

Gloomy Gus, we'll have none of that defeatist talk. Although you are always welcome to ponder Nitram Oct 2019 #119

ty guss Nov 2019 #120